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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3352094" data-attributes="member: 18363">I'll have to go back and re-read it. Somehow I thought it was each spell in the staff could be used once per day. If it is more along the lines of any spell in the staff, but overall uses of the staff no more than 3 per day, that changes the feel and balance of the item. Okay, I note that it does not state whether 3/day refers to the runestaff or the spells themselves. In the first case, a runestaff with more than 3 spells in it will never see all of its spells used each day, as only three of them might - at most - be used in any given day. In the latter instance, each spell can be used up to - at most - three times per day, the number of uses probably varying by the spell (as it states 'or less, in some cases'). At present, there is no way to know how they meant it - at least not until we see more of the text regarding runestaves.This confuses me a bit. Bards have fixed lists, and - albeit quite longer - so do sorcerers. There are arcane spells that are not on the Wiz/Sor lists, although this tends to be rare, I admit. The example suggests that a spell should be on their class list - which seems to go against the idea of allowing bards, etc to use spells that they do not know. It seemed to suggest by text near the top that a bard could use any arcane spell it did not know so long as the spell was arcane, yet later on it stated in the text that the spell must be on their list of learnable spells.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Color me confused, but I am no longer certain this is as useful an item as it first sounded to be. The later text suggests that a wizard may not be able to use a runestaff unless the spell is in their spell book - which seems to utterly contradict the suggested use of a bard or sorcerer using a runestaff to expand their spells known to whichever arcane spell happens to be on whichever arcane runestaff they come upon. I get the feeling they are trying to limit this item to only bards and sorcerers, as other arcane casters either can't use it if 1) they prepare spells and the spells in the staff are not amongst those they have written in their book, or 2) they have a list of spells from which they can learn spells and the spells are not on that list - excluding the bard or sorcerer, as stated at the top of the text being examples of arcane spontaneous users able to expand their spells known to any arcane spell so long as it is in the runestaff. It is a somewhat confusing mess, I think. And while I note that they limited runestaves to arcane magic, I can still see clerics getting use out of this: Least runestaff of ______ domain = spells 1-3 of ______ domain. Lesser runestaff of ______ domain = spells 4-6 of ______ domain. Greater runestaff of ______ domain = spells 7-9 of ______ domain. I'd probably limit use of such runestaves to clerics of a deity having such a domain, however, as I can see their patron deity getting irritated with them if they were depending upon the spells of another deity. Still, many deities have 3 or 4 domains, so a cleric with, say, the fire and good domain of Pelor might find the Greater Runstaff of the Sun domain to be quite useful, as otherwise he does not have access to those spells of his deity. I can see such a staff being a major holy object of the church of Pelor, in fact, while a Least staff of the Sun domain might be purchaseable by any cleric of Pelor who has not chosen the Sun domain. Hmm, here is an odd idea. If a bard creates a Runestaff of Cure Light, Moderate, and Serious Wounds, could a sorcerer use it - in effect using the arcane (due to being created by and from the list of the Bard) runestaff for Arcane healing? The trick would only work for a bard creating a staff for a sorcerer to later use, as they are the only classes listed in the description as being able to use any arcane runestaff due to being "spontaneous casters with unfixed lists."At present, having a class with healing spells (usually on a list rather than learned) is almost a must. If a Bard could create a runestaff with healing spells in it (albeit only the basic ones), it would allow any party that bought such a runestaff to exist without any divine (or bardic) healing, so long as any other arcane caster was present. It is not exactly arcane healing (as the runestaff is needed, and if attuned to another runestaff the advantage is lost until re-attunement to the curing runestaff re-occurs), but it is closer than I think we have seen before from WotC.</blockquote>

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