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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anonymous3" data-source="post: 9549830" data-attributes="member: 7046807">For me, havens are places that are fixed and populated with other inhabitants that you, and/or your party, rely on for safety.I am very glad that TH and MM are not havens in A5e because these spells really trivialized the resources required for exploration and, more importantly for me, removed any desire for players to explore the world before them - speaking to NPCs to understand where they can rest while they make a long journey for instance.Travelling through the Barren Wastes or the Putrid swamps? Not so barren or putrid any more - we have TH and MM that will sort that out. These spells, and others, made everything become "oh, it's this land thing we have to go through".</blockquote>