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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Honorable Intent" data-source="post: 9549600" data-attributes="member: 7049161">Apologies on the skills, I completely forgot 4e made that change as well. I know that Pathfinder consolidated others as well in the variant, but I didn't have the time to look into those skills at the time. However, I'm not sure I'd call Epic Destiny capstones really equivalent. They tend to be a lot more generic than the specifically class-based capstones of PF1e.Yeah, so, I called it lazy design and then also have other examples of lazy design. I hoped that context would be enough, but to further clarify, basically I was evoking a similar point to Corinnguard. The change to Species from Race is one with no mechanical difference; ergo, the laziest way to solve the problem (take the label off, stick a new one on, call it good).By comparison, in PF2e, Paizo made a change from Race to Ancestry. When they did so, they evaluated the mechanics and made the change fit by adjusting them and designing them around the new name; it feels like your Ancestry and Lineage aren't just called that because the names were pulled out of a hat to offend the minimum number of people, but because they were a better way to evoke the feelings Paizo wanted from their playable critters while also respecting that "Race" is a charged term that deserved the axe it got. Similarly, the change in TCoE to "pick whatever attributes you want" was lazy design. Actually, to call it that would be too kind. It wasn't design. It was saying, "you can do whatever you want," and not providing any actual mechanical rules or anything. By comparison, the shift of attributes to Backgrounds is a much more interesting mechanical solution, and one that actually has a mechanical solution. The space in TCoE was essentially wasted, because telling DMs that they can handwave and DM fiat things is not providing rules and options to players or DMs, it's just padding the word count in your splatbook.</blockquote>

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