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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9827977" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yup exactly. And at least in the UK (and I imagine most other surveillance states) if police or other arms of the state try to investigate you they're going to get scary notices coming up on their computers essentially saying "Don't look into this further, don't talk to anyone about it, your superior offices have been notified" like they do when they cross paths with any intelligence services operation.</p><p></p><p>I wonder if there's been a comic which has really covered this yet. You'd think there would be. In the 20th century, particularly in the pre-9/11 US, things might have been very different, but in the 21st century? It's going to be entirely the domain of the intelligence services.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You jest but I think there is at least one version of Superman's power set where that's actually true. In that case though I still think the sheer power of modern surveillance states means they'd narrow it down pretty quickly, even if you effectively had a full face mask, by tracking your movements. With super-speed it seems like it'd be hard to do so, but you'd really only have to get unlucky once, and given the sheer amount of manpower the intelligence services would likely devote to it, it'd just be a matter of time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They may well be countries where the intelligence/security services have "interfered" with the blood donation services, but I suspect that's pretty rare and targeted if so because it would be an insane scandal if it came out and would harm blood donations to the point of itself being a serious national security risk.</p><p></p><p>However, in the UK, ever having been arrested <em>and processed</em> even once, even under entirely false or unreasonable arrest conditions where no charge was made or even really possible (in theory you shouldn't be processed in the latter case - in practice people often are), even if the arrest was later removed from the books does permanently put you on a police DNA registry though (which the intelligence services will have access to, and any paid spies for the mega-rich/corporations who have infiltrated the police and/or intelligence services will thus be able to access). Not sure if that's true in the US - I assume not, or that it would primarily be state level - but similar situations may be the case in other countries (the UK is one of if not the most extreme Western surveillance state though). Obviously one's relatives may also clue the intelligence services (and others) in by willingly exposing their DNA data on databases too (for example, both my parents have done so, so I'd be pretty easy to find).</p><p></p><p>I suspect the best option you might have for maintaining a secret identity would actually be to immediately find someone senior in the intelligence services, or the elected head of your government (but probably not the latter, a lot of those guys are going to be unreliable flakes) and just tell them who you are and what you want to happen. Especially if you're not looking for perks or bribes (better to wait for them to come for you if you are, otherwise it looks like extortion rather than tribute).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9827977, member: 18"] Yup exactly. And at least in the UK (and I imagine most other surveillance states) if police or other arms of the state try to investigate you they're going to get scary notices coming up on their computers essentially saying "Don't look into this further, don't talk to anyone about it, your superior offices have been notified" like they do when they cross paths with any intelligence services operation. I wonder if there's been a comic which has really covered this yet. You'd think there would be. In the 20th century, particularly in the pre-9/11 US, things might have been very different, but in the 21st century? It's going to be entirely the domain of the intelligence services. You jest but I think there is at least one version of Superman's power set where that's actually true. In that case though I still think the sheer power of modern surveillance states means they'd narrow it down pretty quickly, even if you effectively had a full face mask, by tracking your movements. With super-speed it seems like it'd be hard to do so, but you'd really only have to get unlucky once, and given the sheer amount of manpower the intelligence services would likely devote to it, it'd just be a matter of time. They may well be countries where the intelligence/security services have "interfered" with the blood donation services, but I suspect that's pretty rare and targeted if so because it would be an insane scandal if it came out and would harm blood donations to the point of itself being a serious national security risk. However, in the UK, ever having been arrested [I]and processed[/I] even once, even under entirely false or unreasonable arrest conditions where no charge was made or even really possible (in theory you shouldn't be processed in the latter case - in practice people often are), even if the arrest was later removed from the books does permanently put you on a police DNA registry though (which the intelligence services will have access to, and any paid spies for the mega-rich/corporations who have infiltrated the police and/or intelligence services will thus be able to access). Not sure if that's true in the US - I assume not, or that it would primarily be state level - but similar situations may be the case in other countries (the UK is one of if not the most extreme Western surveillance state though). Obviously one's relatives may also clue the intelligence services (and others) in by willingly exposing their DNA data on databases too (for example, both my parents have done so, so I'd be pretty easy to find). I suspect the best option you might have for maintaining a secret identity would actually be to immediately find someone senior in the intelligence services, or the elected head of your government (but probably not the latter, a lot of those guys are going to be unreliable flakes) and just tell them who you are and what you want to happen. Especially if you're not looking for perks or bribes (better to wait for them to come for you if you are, otherwise it looks like extortion rather than tribute). [/QUOTE]
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