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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9828546" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That... isn't true. As far as I know, anyway.</p><p></p><p>Why, exactly, do you think that is true? Do you want to cite an article or something? Do you think security cameras and drone cameras are all IR? Because I can assure you that most non-phone cameras have an IR filter (specifically to block IR), and whilst it isn't perfect in all cases (though is pretty good in most), it + you emitting a ton of extra IR light from the LEDs is probably going to make you a lot <em>easier</em> to track. It might mess up the detail needed for gait recognition in some cases, but... that won't be how they get you. Especially as they may not even have enough of your gait from when you're Supes because will likely be flying 95% of the time. You could defeat a lot of phone cameras that way but that's not the main concern imo.</p><p></p><p>They'll get you because only a certain number of people came out of X place after Supes disappeared into it. And they'll probably fail to work it out dozens of times but they'll have ever-more opportunities over time. They'll be tasking ultra-top-secret ultra-high-res spy satellites to track you for god's sake, it'd be that important. Sooner or later they will work out which one you are.</p><p></p><p>If it was just the police or the FBI or something, pfffft, yeah, they might never get you. But a person/creature of that kind of power, publicly demonstrated? The best resources of the security/surveillance state would get tasked on to it, and no-one has the resources to fight that, you'd literally need a superpower that Supes doesn't have. Now, it'd be a very different story if you just never used your powers, or incredibly rarely and carefully, you could last decades, perhaps indefinitely, but Morrus' setup is that you're routinely saving people in big public spectacles like Supes does.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Whilst I agree, I doubt it would be truly permanent or that they'd bury you beyond the metaphorical unless you'd basically declared war on them (in which case deploying Kryptonite against you would be very hard, unless you were pretty naive - it reliably works on Supes largely because he is both somewhat naive and even when he suspects a trap, is a truly good and self-sacrificing person, so us easily manipulated into willingly putting himself in situations where it can happen), and maybe not even then! Because the sheer temptation of your power, and the overweening hubris of huge number of politicians (my evidence: the world today, and the leaders of about 30-50% of countries) means that, sooner or later (probably sooner, i.e. within a decade or three at most), someone is going to think they can make a deal with you, or that you agree with them already. That's one thing the comics have pretty consistently gotten right - no-one that powerful and potentially useful is going to stay "buried", and people are going to dig up those they think agree with them (for an amusing if slightly off example, see the comic where British white nationalists dig up King Arthur and are like "Help us cleanse Britain of non-whites!" and his reaction as a Romano-Celt is "MUST KILL THESE ANGLO-SAXON INVADER FILTH").</p><p></p><p>The smart move would thus be to kill you (Supes) if things had gotten that bad but... I'm not sure that'd actually be possible, even with Kryptonite - more expert Supes-heads can probably say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9828546, member: 18"] That... isn't true. As far as I know, anyway. Why, exactly, do you think that is true? Do you want to cite an article or something? Do you think security cameras and drone cameras are all IR? Because I can assure you that most non-phone cameras have an IR filter (specifically to block IR), and whilst it isn't perfect in all cases (though is pretty good in most), it + you emitting a ton of extra IR light from the LEDs is probably going to make you a lot [I]easier[/I] to track. It might mess up the detail needed for gait recognition in some cases, but... that won't be how they get you. Especially as they may not even have enough of your gait from when you're Supes because will likely be flying 95% of the time. You could defeat a lot of phone cameras that way but that's not the main concern imo. They'll get you because only a certain number of people came out of X place after Supes disappeared into it. And they'll probably fail to work it out dozens of times but they'll have ever-more opportunities over time. They'll be tasking ultra-top-secret ultra-high-res spy satellites to track you for god's sake, it'd be that important. Sooner or later they will work out which one you are. If it was just the police or the FBI or something, pfffft, yeah, they might never get you. But a person/creature of that kind of power, publicly demonstrated? The best resources of the security/surveillance state would get tasked on to it, and no-one has the resources to fight that, you'd literally need a superpower that Supes doesn't have. Now, it'd be a very different story if you just never used your powers, or incredibly rarely and carefully, you could last decades, perhaps indefinitely, but Morrus' setup is that you're routinely saving people in big public spectacles like Supes does. Whilst I agree, I doubt it would be truly permanent or that they'd bury you beyond the metaphorical unless you'd basically declared war on them (in which case deploying Kryptonite against you would be very hard, unless you were pretty naive - it reliably works on Supes largely because he is both somewhat naive and even when he suspects a trap, is a truly good and self-sacrificing person, so us easily manipulated into willingly putting himself in situations where it can happen), and maybe not even then! Because the sheer temptation of your power, and the overweening hubris of huge number of politicians (my evidence: the world today, and the leaders of about 30-50% of countries) means that, sooner or later (probably sooner, i.e. within a decade or three at most), someone is going to think they can make a deal with you, or that you agree with them already. That's one thing the comics have pretty consistently gotten right - no-one that powerful and potentially useful is going to stay "buried", and people are going to dig up those they think agree with them (for an amusing if slightly off example, see the comic where British white nationalists dig up King Arthur and are like "Help us cleanse Britain of non-whites!" and his reaction as a Romano-Celt is "MUST KILL THESE ANGLO-SAXON INVADER FILTH"). The smart move would thus be to kill you (Supes) if things had gotten that bad but... I'm not sure that'd actually be possible, even with Kryptonite - more expert Supes-heads can probably say. [/QUOTE]
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