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Major Image (Spell): When should a creature use its action to examine something that it believes is real?
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<blockquote data-quote="bbrown12" data-source="post: 7218243" data-attributes="member: 6872180"><p>Hey guys,</p><p></p><p>the Major Image spell has<strong> no saving throw</strong>. Let's say a creature has no reason to arouse "natural suspicion" (like a guard patrol seeing a bush that hasn't been there before). So, creatures that see the image believe it to be <strong>real</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, a creature has <strong>only two possibilities</strong> to find out, it's an illusion:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It physically interacts with the illusion (and sees things going through). This one is pretty simple and clear.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It takes its action to examine the illusion (therefore it makes an Investigation check against the Spellcasting DC).</li> </ol><p></p><p><strong>My question is: When would a creature use its action to investigate something that it believes is real? </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>No one would ever come up with the idea to investigating a <em>real</em> creatures/characters/etc. </p><p></p><p>So, the only situation I can imagine is the following:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Creature A</strong></span> finds out the image is an illusion, because of physical interaction (it has no reason to investigate) - maybe even by chance.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Now, it shouts to his allied <span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Creature B</strong></span> "Hey, this is an illusion!".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Creature B</strong></span> <strong>has still no indications</strong> to take the image as an illusion, because it seems so real (sound, smell, temperature, etc.), except<span style="color: #0000ff"><strong> Creature A</strong></span> telling him for some strange reason.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So, <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Creature B</span> still needs to find out himself</strong>. He can always do so by physical interaction, but <strong>now it has well-founded indications that the image might be an illusion</strong> (because <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Creature A </span></strong>told him so).</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>So, the only way for a creature to take its action to investiagte the image is, if it has well-founded indication <u>from outside</u> (e.g. other creature).</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Am I right? </p><p></p><p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> I would never offer an NPC/Player the possibility to use its action to investigate an illusionary image, if it has no well-founded indication <u>from outside</u> (e.g. other creatures telling him). A creature believes the image is real, so why would it come up with the idea of investigating it? In addition, it always can find out it's an illusion by physically interacting with it (maybe by chance).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbrown12, post: 7218243, member: 6872180"] Hey guys, the Major Image spell has[B] no saving throw[/B]. Let's say a creature has no reason to arouse "natural suspicion" (like a guard patrol seeing a bush that hasn't been there before). So, creatures that see the image believe it to be [B]real[/B]. Furthermore, a creature has [B]only two possibilities[/B] to find out, it's an illusion: [LIST=1] [*]It physically interacts with the illusion (and sees things going through). This one is pretty simple and clear. [*]It takes its action to examine the illusion (therefore it makes an Investigation check against the Spellcasting DC). [/LIST] [B]My question is: When would a creature use its action to investigate something that it believes is real? [/B]No one would ever come up with the idea to investigating a [I]real[/I] creatures/characters/etc. So, the only situation I can imagine is the following: [LIST] [*][COLOR=#0000ff][B]Creature A[/B][/COLOR] finds out the image is an illusion, because of physical interaction (it has no reason to investigate) - maybe even by chance. [*]Now, it shouts to his allied [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Creature B[/B][/COLOR] "Hey, this is an illusion!". [*][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Creature B[/B][/COLOR] [B]has still no indications[/B] to take the image as an illusion, because it seems so real (sound, smell, temperature, etc.), except[COLOR=#0000ff][B] Creature A[/B][/COLOR] telling him for some strange reason. [*]So, [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Creature B[/COLOR] still needs to find out himself[/B]. He can always do so by physical interaction, but [B]now it has well-founded indications that the image might be an illusion[/B] (because [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Creature A [/COLOR][/B]told him so). [/LIST] [B]So, the only way for a creature to take its action to investiagte the image is, if it has well-founded indication [U]from outside[/U] (e.g. other creature). [/B] Am I right? [B]TL;DR:[/B] I would never offer an NPC/Player the possibility to use its action to investigate an illusionary image, if it has no well-founded indication [U]from outside[/U] (e.g. other creatures telling him). A creature believes the image is real, so why would it come up with the idea of investigating it? In addition, it always can find out it's an illusion by physically interacting with it (maybe by chance). [/QUOTE]
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