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<blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3411574" data-attributes="member: 37198">I think the mirror image reference is a little faulty.&nbsp; To continue Hyp's snipe hypothetical, if a blind caster was turned into a snipe and cast mirror image he would create duplicate snipes because that's what the spell does.&nbsp; (If the mage has a &quot;Kick Me&quot; sign on his back he doesn't know about, MI duplicates would have it.&nbsp; Kind of a funny way for the mage to find out about it, actually.)&nbsp; But you still couldn't make a Minor Image of something you'd never seen, at best it would look like whatever default mental image your mind creates.&nbsp; (If I were casting it, my minor image snipe would look like a opossum, perhaps with a little hat.&nbsp; I don't know why, that's just what I'm seeing.)I'm not entirely sure if its possible to create an &quot;invisible&quot; illusion, or an illusion you'd need See Invisibility to see.&nbsp; If that's what you wanted, I'd think you'd need to cast Invisibility on the illusion. (I haven't put a lot of thought into this, but these are my first impressions.)&nbsp; But I don't think a caster has to include all the elements of an illusion, so if they wanted to cast a Major Image without a visual component (or thermal, or sound) they could.&nbsp; So a caster could create a sound and smell illusion of herself, and the players would likely assume she was invisible.&nbsp; A lower tech version would be a Scent Bane ability or spell and Ghost Sound.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phindar, post: 3411574, member: 37198"] I think the mirror image reference is a little faulty. To continue Hyp's snipe hypothetical, if a blind caster was turned into a snipe and cast mirror image he would create duplicate snipes because that's what the spell does. (If the mage has a "Kick Me" sign on his back he doesn't know about, MI duplicates would have it. Kind of a funny way for the mage to find out about it, actually.) But you still couldn't make a Minor Image of something you'd never seen, at best it would look like whatever default mental image your mind creates. (If I were casting it, my minor image snipe would look like a opossum, perhaps with a little hat. I don't know why, that's just what I'm seeing.) I'm not entirely sure if its possible to create an "invisible" illusion, or an illusion you'd need [i]See Invisibility[/i] to see. If that's what you wanted, I'd think you'd need to cast [i]Invisibility[/i] on the illusion. (I haven't put a lot of thought into this, but these are my first impressions.) But I don't think a caster has to include all the elements of an illusion, so if they wanted to cast a Major Image without a visual component (or thermal, or sound) they could. So a caster could create a sound and smell illusion of herself, and the players would likely assume she was invisible. A lower tech version would be a Scent Bane ability or spell and [i]Ghost Sound[/i]. [/QUOTE]

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