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<blockquote data-quote="TheGogmagog" data-source="post: 3411691" data-attributes="member: 27702">The 'kick me' sign argument is what made my mind up.&nbsp; (wasn't sure when the question was posed).&nbsp; Mirror image would let the caster find out he has a kick me sign.&nbsp; If the caster creates a major image of himself, the sign would be missing and an observer would know the something was up.&nbsp; I'd allow a save right then, and probably a circumstance penalty.Same as if the caster creates an image of something completely unbelievable.So with the snipe, you get what the caster thinks a snipe looks like.&nbsp; Others might believe the illusion, but they wouldn't recognize it as a snipe.&nbsp;&nbsp; The orc would only stink as accuratly as the caster could know, a creature with scent would get a bonus check, but a failed save would mean a) the scent is filled in with magic b) it doesn't smell right because of some other 'scentbreaker'. The question to your specific situation, 1) Did the caster ever temporarily gain scent?&nbsp; and 2) Would the creature with scent a. have made the save b. been able to figure out why the illusion didn't smell right c.have been able to communicate something was up?I guess you woldn't want to take flaws that affect your senses if you plan on being a illusionist.&nbsp; You also might want to be able to experience some of the super-sensory methods.&nbsp; Possibly through transmutation or posession.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheGogmagog, post: 3411691, member: 27702"] The 'kick me' sign argument is what made my mind up. (wasn't sure when the question was posed). Mirror image would let the caster find out he has a kick me sign. If the caster creates a major image of himself, the sign would be missing and an observer would know the something was up. I'd allow a save right then, and probably a circumstance penalty. Same as if the caster creates an image of something completely unbelievable. So with the snipe, you get what the caster thinks a snipe looks like. Others might believe the illusion, but they wouldn't recognize it as a snipe. The orc would only stink as accuratly as the caster could know, a creature with scent would get a bonus check, but a failed save would mean a) the scent is filled in with magic b) it doesn't smell right because of some other 'scentbreaker'. The question to your specific situation, 1) Did the caster ever temporarily gain scent? and 2) Would the creature with scent a. have made the save b. been able to figure out why the illusion didn't smell right c.have been able to communicate something was up? I guess you woldn't want to take flaws that affect your senses if you plan on being a illusionist. You also might want to be able to experience some of the super-sensory methods. Possibly through transmutation or posession. [/QUOTE]

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