Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="sunrisekid" data-source="post: 4731232" data-attributes="member: 57326">Well said, this is exactly the case.  The re-skinning comment is precisely how I've spiced up gaming sessions over the many years that I've been DMing, though I sympathize with my player's complaint.  None of my players want to DM so I have no opportunity to experience their complaint or frustration regarding 4E iterative at-wills.  *shrug*.  Personally, I quite like the flavour text, especially for the Star Warlock (so Lovecraftian <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  I don't really want to give up 4E because I like the stream-lined mechanics - in my opinion 4E fixed everything I didn't like with 3E.  Unfortunately, now I have players who, eg, don't like the fact that everytime her rogue attacks it's always "sly" and it's always a "flourish" such that it can't not be sly nor a flourish.  CapnZapp's comment is dead-on.  But I'm not looking to resuscitate this debate, we've all seen it rage across the boards since before and after 4E was released.As as side note, I took the players through a couple of Basic D&D sessions and they really liked it.  I think partly because the game rule crunch didn't interfere with the playing experience.  As I said, they're all noobs so the narrative makes things easier on the brain; less simulationism for them to mull over.  This is why I wonder if it's feasible to run 4E when all the attack powers are bumped into the daily category - and maybe it would be a simple adjustment to do the same for monsters.  This allows even a sly flourish to be meaningful.  Off the top of my head:* Rogues would probably wind up backstabbing a bit less often, what with fewer uses of powers that provide movement* Mages would cast pretty much the same as in the old days (resulting in far less power than they currently have - and driving them to darts and crossbows again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)* Fighter/Paladin challenges can even be limited to daily...Would this make encounter calculations completely unworkable?  My only interest is playing to the crowd: I want my friends to enjoy the game in order that I get to continue doing what I love, ie, being the Dungeon Master <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

Verification