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<blockquote data-quote="NoOneofConsequence" data-source="post: 414485" data-attributes="member: 5400"><p><strong>Re: Also</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ask the Somalis or the Vietnamese how decisive technology is. Both these third world, backwater nations successfully resisted the military intervention of the most technologically advanced military on Earth. Tech is cool to have, but if that's all you have then it's not enough, as often as not.</p><p></p><p>This question seems so broad as to leave no real possibility of a decisive answer. However, here's one reflection though. </p><p></p><p>Discipline: Without some more specific details, the average Roman legion wins hands down for discipline. This one factor alone can win a phenomenal number of battles. I'd be interested to hear what SHARK has to say about the issue of discipline and esprit de corps.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Aahh...the myth of the powerful bow vs. the weak sling. A sling can fling a bullet farther than most bows can shoot an arrow and with greater impact. The absence of medieval level archery doesn't mean that the Romans were unfamiliar with missile weapons, nor incapable of devising solutions.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I know I'm being pedantic, but can you say "Colleseum"? The fact that many Roman buildings did not last is because they were not built to last, not because the Romans didn't know how to build them to last.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>These cause me to pick the Romans over the Medievalists. On top of which, when the Romans put a huge force into the field (multiple legions) they tended not to suffer from the hugely complex and convoluted systems of personal loyalty which massive fuedal armies experienced. You didn't often get large chunks of the Roman side turning coat and joining the barbarians. Disloyal nobles were a fact of life for a medieval army - a fact which most Roman generals could well be astute enough to exploit. </p><p></p><p>In the end, technology not withstanding, the Romans get my vote hands down. After all, the Romans beat other, technologically more advanced groups during their climb to the top. (Rome learnt ironworking from conquering the Gallic tribes.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NoOneofConsequence, post: 414485, member: 5400"] [b]Re: Also[/b] Ask the Somalis or the Vietnamese how decisive technology is. Both these third world, backwater nations successfully resisted the military intervention of the most technologically advanced military on Earth. Tech is cool to have, but if that's all you have then it's not enough, as often as not. This question seems so broad as to leave no real possibility of a decisive answer. However, here's one reflection though. Discipline: Without some more specific details, the average Roman legion wins hands down for discipline. This one factor alone can win a phenomenal number of battles. I'd be interested to hear what SHARK has to say about the issue of discipline and esprit de corps. Aahh...the myth of the powerful bow vs. the weak sling. A sling can fling a bullet farther than most bows can shoot an arrow and with greater impact. The absence of medieval level archery doesn't mean that the Romans were unfamiliar with missile weapons, nor incapable of devising solutions. I know I'm being pedantic, but can you say "Colleseum"? The fact that many Roman buildings did not last is because they were not built to last, not because the Romans didn't know how to build them to last. These cause me to pick the Romans over the Medievalists. On top of which, when the Romans put a huge force into the field (multiple legions) they tended not to suffer from the hugely complex and convoluted systems of personal loyalty which massive fuedal armies experienced. You didn't often get large chunks of the Roman side turning coat and joining the barbarians. Disloyal nobles were a fact of life for a medieval army - a fact which most Roman generals could well be astute enough to exploit. In the end, technology not withstanding, the Romans get my vote hands down. After all, the Romans beat other, technologically more advanced groups during their climb to the top. (Rome learnt ironworking from conquering the Gallic tribes.) [/QUOTE]
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