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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 416137" data-attributes="member: 944"><p>The Roman Legions were pretty good I will agree but they weren't made up of mostly 10th level fighters. </p><p></p><p>JMO here but a Roman Legion would be made up of Fighters (not Warriors though) of Levels 2-6 mostly. Just add 2 skill points per level and make a few professions class skills and bingo-- Instant Leginaire</p><p></p><p></p><p>1st- Recruit just trained'</p><p>2nd- 1 year of service</p><p>3rd- 3 years of service</p><p>4th- 5 years of service</p><p>5th - 10 years of Service</p><p>6th - 15 year veteran</p><p>7th- 20 year Veteran </p><p></p><p>Add a level or two if the guy saw combat</p><p></p><p>An Example</p><p></p><p>Merricus </p><p>1 year legion veteran </p><p></p><p>Human Fighter 2</p><p>12</p><p>10</p><p>10</p><p>12</p><p>13</p><p>11</p><p></p><p>Feats</p><p>Phlanx fighting </p><p>Endurance, </p><p>Shield Expert </p><p>1 other</p><p></p><p>Skills</p><p>Profession Legionaire</p><p>Profession Engineer</p><p>others</p><p></p><p>Equipment</p><p>Chain Shirt </p><p>Helmet</p><p>3- Pilum</p><p>Shortsword</p><p></p><p>Special Notes</p><p>The Pilum is a martial weapon that can be thrown at a shiled. THe thrower takes a -2 penalty and if he hits and suceeds in penetrating his enemies shields Hardness the shield is rendered useless. This will not work against magic shields unless the pilum has greater plusses. A pilum used in this tactics is destroyed with a hit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And yes these low level guys (about 4th on average) were the terror of the ancient world</p><p></p><p>The reasons are many but the big four</p><p></p><p>Resources,</p><p>Kill 1 legion guy so what there is another hundred. OTOH if you kill a Babarbarian, no replacements. And if he is a part timer, no crops next year</p><p></p><p>Training. His enemies were mostly Warriors, about he same level but with less feats in D&D terms. Even the Barabarians they fought weren't as well trained</p><p></p><p>Logisitcs. </p><p>Full army with integrated units will always defeat a horde of indvidual fighters. </p><p></p><p>Gear.</p><p>Typical Barabarian Warrior has a spear and a shield (wood). Roman guy, Shield+ More Weapons+ plus Chain or Better Armor </p><p></p><p>In D&D terms, Legionaires have four more points of AC!</p><p></p><p>For another take try the Soldier class from Sovereign Stone. It is set up with formatuions in mind or if you like there is a legionaire class in The Hunt Rise of Evil setting (from Mystic Eye games) as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally i should add that a roman style legion is not going to work with standard D&D magic assumtions. One Wizard with a fireball wand can break up almost any formation. </p><p></p><p>Now in a low Magic or High Magic realm (like SHARKs World) its another story</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ace, post: 416137, member: 944"] The Roman Legions were pretty good I will agree but they weren't made up of mostly 10th level fighters. JMO here but a Roman Legion would be made up of Fighters (not Warriors though) of Levels 2-6 mostly. Just add 2 skill points per level and make a few professions class skills and bingo-- Instant Leginaire 1st- Recruit just trained' 2nd- 1 year of service 3rd- 3 years of service 4th- 5 years of service 5th - 10 years of Service 6th - 15 year veteran 7th- 20 year Veteran Add a level or two if the guy saw combat An Example Merricus 1 year legion veteran Human Fighter 2 12 10 10 12 13 11 Feats Phlanx fighting Endurance, Shield Expert 1 other Skills Profession Legionaire Profession Engineer others Equipment Chain Shirt Helmet 3- Pilum Shortsword Special Notes The Pilum is a martial weapon that can be thrown at a shiled. THe thrower takes a -2 penalty and if he hits and suceeds in penetrating his enemies shields Hardness the shield is rendered useless. This will not work against magic shields unless the pilum has greater plusses. A pilum used in this tactics is destroyed with a hit. And yes these low level guys (about 4th on average) were the terror of the ancient world The reasons are many but the big four Resources, Kill 1 legion guy so what there is another hundred. OTOH if you kill a Babarbarian, no replacements. And if he is a part timer, no crops next year Training. His enemies were mostly Warriors, about he same level but with less feats in D&D terms. Even the Barabarians they fought weren't as well trained Logisitcs. Full army with integrated units will always defeat a horde of indvidual fighters. Gear. Typical Barabarian Warrior has a spear and a shield (wood). Roman guy, Shield+ More Weapons+ plus Chain or Better Armor In D&D terms, Legionaires have four more points of AC! For another take try the Soldier class from Sovereign Stone. It is set up with formatuions in mind or if you like there is a legionaire class in The Hunt Rise of Evil setting (from Mystic Eye games) as well. Finally i should add that a roman style legion is not going to work with standard D&D magic assumtions. One Wizard with a fireball wand can break up almost any formation. Now in a low Magic or High Magic realm (like SHARKs World) its another story [/QUOTE]
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