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<blockquote data-quote="Dr_Ruminahui" data-source="post: 5097972" data-attributes="member: 81104">Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be theivery - thievery covers slight of hand and such, and what you are doing is basically sleight of hand.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Now, if any of my players (the Chain of World's campaign) are here, read no further...&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm currently planning a skill challenge for my own group, where they act as counsel for one of the sides in a territoritorial dispute.&nbsp; The way I intend to get the entire party involved is to have the &quot;planning&quot; for the diplomacy portion be just as important as the actual diplomacy portion.&nbsp; Basically, each character will tell me how they plan on helping, for which I will require them to do a &quot;mini skill challenge&quot;, which passes successes and failures onto the diplomacy challenge (haven't worked that part out yet).&nbsp;Some possible activities:&nbsp;Research legal precedents: diplomacy/intimidation/bluff (get librarian to help), history (research), have to think of some others.&nbsp;Find out what other side's argument is:- stealth version: stealth (sneak to listening post), thievery/athletics (get to ideal position), perception (listen in)- drinking buddies version: bluff/diplomacy (get other side to trust you), endurance/thievery (out drink other side), insight (read their body language)&nbsp;Go examine territory in question: nature (navigation), athletics/endurance (make it there and back in time), perception/arcana/nature/religion (notice important terrain piece)&nbsp;Go get info from other location: athletics/endurance (hurry there), intimidate/bluff/diplomacy (get person to give it to you), insight (know whether you have all the infor you need)&nbsp;In some situations, you may be able to swap skills - use heal rather than a social skill to get the book keeper to help you by treating their arthritis - is one example.&nbsp;Anyway, it won't be for some weeks yet, so whoever wants the final info for this can send me a personal message now and I'll give you the details after I've run it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr_Ruminahui, post: 5097972, member: 81104"] Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be theivery - thievery covers slight of hand and such, and what you are doing is basically sleight of hand. Now, if any of my players (the Chain of World's campaign) are here, read no further... I'm currently planning a skill challenge for my own group, where they act as counsel for one of the sides in a territoritorial dispute. The way I intend to get the entire party involved is to have the "planning" for the diplomacy portion be just as important as the actual diplomacy portion. Basically, each character will tell me how they plan on helping, for which I will require them to do a "mini skill challenge", which passes successes and failures onto the diplomacy challenge (haven't worked that part out yet). Some possible activities: Research legal precedents: diplomacy/intimidation/bluff (get librarian to help), history (research), have to think of some others. Find out what other side's argument is: - stealth version: stealth (sneak to listening post), thievery/athletics (get to ideal position), perception (listen in) - drinking buddies version: bluff/diplomacy (get other side to trust you), endurance/thievery (out drink other side), insight (read their body language) Go examine territory in question: nature (navigation), athletics/endurance (make it there and back in time), perception/arcana/nature/religion (notice important terrain piece) Go get info from other location: athletics/endurance (hurry there), intimidate/bluff/diplomacy (get person to give it to you), insight (know whether you have all the infor you need) In some situations, you may be able to swap skills - use heal rather than a social skill to get the book keeper to help you by treating their arthritis - is one example. Anyway, it won't be for some weeks yet, so whoever wants the final info for this can send me a personal message now and I'll give you the details after I've run it. [/QUOTE]

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