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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6434465" data-attributes="member: 92511">I thought about that but I think they are too different to warrant and, going from what we've seen in the PHB, don't fit as a single &quot;Goblinoid&quot; race.That's like saying &quot;Halfling&quot; is a race and Dwarf and Human are subraces of Halfling.The subraces should be able to be presented as &quot;X race&quot;, &quot;Y race&quot;: &quot;Mountain Dwarf&quot;, &quot;Lightfoot Halfling&quot;, etc... &quot;Hobgoblin Goblin&quot; and &quot;Bugbear Goblin&quot; don't work for me.&nbsp;I could see doing: Goblin race. Subraces: Greymuck [or whatever for Generic &quot;Goblin&quot;], Xvart [&quot;blue Underdark&quot; goblins], Norker [&quot;fanged neanderthal&quot; goblins]...and/or Redcap [fae sociopath goblins].Hmmm...I guess...Generic Goblins (with a sidebar about the existence of varying colored goblins that all share these stats:green, blue, grey, etc...)Hob: bigger, smarter, braver, more militant.Redcap: same size as normal gob's, dark fae sociopath with some innate magic.Those are more distinct flavor than just skin tone for justifiable &quot;sub-races&quot;...and I can live with Somethinggeneral Goblin, Hob Goblin, and Redcap Goblin.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6434465, member: 92511"] I thought about that but I think they are too different to warrant and, going from what we've seen in the PHB, don't fit as a single "Goblinoid" race. That's like saying "Halfling" is a race and Dwarf and Human are subraces of Halfling. The subraces should be able to be presented as "X race", "Y race": "Mountain Dwarf", "Lightfoot Halfling", etc... "Hobgoblin Goblin" and "Bugbear Goblin" don't work for me. I could see doing: Goblin race. Subraces: Greymuck [or whatever for Generic "Goblin"], Xvart ["blue Underdark" goblins], Norker ["fanged neanderthal" goblins]...and/or Redcap [fae sociopath goblins]. Hmmm...I guess... Generic Goblins (with a sidebar about the existence of varying colored goblins that all share these stats:green, blue, grey, etc...) Hob: bigger, smarter, braver, more militant. Redcap: same size as normal gob's, dark fae sociopath with some innate magic. Those are more distinct flavor than just skin tone for justifiable "sub-races"...and I can live with Somethinggeneral Goblin, Hob Goblin, and Redcap Goblin. [/QUOTE]

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