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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6221891" data-attributes="member: 92511">Well, I get what both of you are saying. But I don't necessarily agree. I can list those kinds of "different places and types of bards that might be found wandering around Orea" too...But when you open up the Ironwood Player's Handbook...it's not about how you see/play them...Where is the class info for a PC Bard listed? What does it include to be a Bard class in Ironwood?In Orea, it doesn't matter if you are a wandering respected and honored entertainer and living historical record in the kingdom of Mostrial or a rakish cad shtupping the noblewomen at the high class parties in the courts of the magelords of R'Hath ["foolish" doesn't even begin...] or picking pockets and swapping secrets in the back allies of Andril in between underpaid music sets at some dive port-side tavern. You go to the PHB to make a bard PC, and this [xyz] is what you get that makes you a Bard....xyz is what, overall, in the grand broad scheme, Bard is. How you then color and lean your particular PC is not really class-defining to me. So, in the setting, you [the player] can have a "priestly" Bard, if that's what you want, or a "roguey" Bard if that's what you want...or a illusiony trickster or a swordmagey guy or a Bard that focuses their magic in nature/druidic ways and acts as an agent for the Ancient Order of Mistwood [druids]...so, "what it is in the setting" really isn't the definition of the class...at least not when it comes to Bard.Things like Druid and Paladin...and Barbarian, yes they are all a bit more setting-specific/narrow to interpretation. Bard simply isn't one of those classes. It possesses elements of all four "base" groups: priest, warrior, wizard and rogue and can easily [be played to] lean in any one of those directions.Monk...probably is more the formers than the latter...but they too can be played/lean toward warrior, priest or rogue...regardless of what various types and spaces I make or them in the setting. Do they xyz? Then they're a Monk...whether its the elf-ninja Runners of Seven Clouds or the mystic Scribe-Monks of Sorilorr (god of knowledge and inspiration) recording all that happens in the world in their sacred scrolls....or the breaking stone with their fists Disciples of the Dragon [style] training in the hidden temple-city of Esherrakerrek...they are all [or would/will all be, if they go in] Monks in the Orea PHB.</blockquote>

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