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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 1161038" data-attributes="member: 1190"><p>A person can be better at rummaging through things. You learn to move things about in an orderly manner so that you don't end up covering a thing with something you've moved. BUT...</p><p></p><p>Search is not only about rummaging. It is about seeking for things, likely using senses other than your eyes. You touch the wall, you look at the wall, you tap on the wall, you feel for air currents and by that (and your training as to what to look for and how to interpret it--thus intelligence) you find the secret door, or the trap, or the hairline fracture in the floor.</p><p></p><p>Spot on the other hand is about looking, only looking and not doing anything but looking. It is a skill that relates to how you focus your eyes and how good you are at using your peripheral vision. It is even then less active and more instinctive--thus wisdom.</p><p></p><p>Bluff and Sense Motive have nothing in common, aside from being opposites. One is charisma based because you are using your ability to influence others to disemble or out right lie. Sense Motive is wisdom based because you are using your awareness of a person with whom you're interacting to fuel your instincts and decide how honest they are being.</p><p></p><p>My major concern with combining skills is that a person should be able (even if most people don't choose to go this route) of being able to walk quietly but have no skill at hiding. That and the fact that the origin of this whole thing is Monte's Stealth skill. Now don't get me wrong, I like Monte's stuff for the most part, but he makes FR look low-powered when it comes to his love of power gaming systems. I shudder at the idea of exporting anything from AU directly into another game. The power curves, IMO at least, are completely different. The combination of MS and Hide into Stealth in the core, frees up the rogue to become good and one more thing. With the number of skill points they have, this allows them to start stealing the thunder of other class's skills.</p><p></p><p>Just my view.</p><p></p><p>DC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 1161038, member: 1190"] A person can be better at rummaging through things. You learn to move things about in an orderly manner so that you don't end up covering a thing with something you've moved. BUT... Search is not only about rummaging. It is about seeking for things, likely using senses other than your eyes. You touch the wall, you look at the wall, you tap on the wall, you feel for air currents and by that (and your training as to what to look for and how to interpret it--thus intelligence) you find the secret door, or the trap, or the hairline fracture in the floor. Spot on the other hand is about looking, only looking and not doing anything but looking. It is a skill that relates to how you focus your eyes and how good you are at using your peripheral vision. It is even then less active and more instinctive--thus wisdom. Bluff and Sense Motive have nothing in common, aside from being opposites. One is charisma based because you are using your ability to influence others to disemble or out right lie. Sense Motive is wisdom based because you are using your awareness of a person with whom you're interacting to fuel your instincts and decide how honest they are being. My major concern with combining skills is that a person should be able (even if most people don't choose to go this route) of being able to walk quietly but have no skill at hiding. That and the fact that the origin of this whole thing is Monte's Stealth skill. Now don't get me wrong, I like Monte's stuff for the most part, but he makes FR look low-powered when it comes to his love of power gaming systems. I shudder at the idea of exporting anything from AU directly into another game. The power curves, IMO at least, are completely different. The combination of MS and Hide into Stealth in the core, frees up the rogue to become good and one more thing. With the number of skill points they have, this allows them to start stealing the thunder of other class's skills. Just my view. DC [/QUOTE]
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