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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 2277824" data-attributes="member: 9002">Well, granted, you have the option to wade into melee with a limp chicken and a brisket of beef.&nbsp; I meant &quot;option&quot; as in, &quot;viable option.&quot;&nbsp; As is stands, a melee specialist using 2 weapons just stinks compared to ye olde 2-handed weapon user (it's not just a greatsword problem):a)&nbsp; feats on top of feats on top of feats requires to almost but not quite match Fighter w/ 2-handed weapon who is not using feats.&nbsp; This is true at level 1, 5, 10, 15, 20.&nbsp; Give the 2-handed weapon guy as many feats as the 2-weapon guy burned, and he's miles ahead.b)&nbsp; You have to enchant 2 blades instead of one.&nbsp; Obvious.c)&nbsp; You only get full attacks maybe 50% of the time.&nbsp; The rest of the time you just have to move &amp; hit once; big advantage to the 2-handed weapon.d)&nbsp; power attack advantages, etc. etc. e) etc.I don't think it's asking too much to have a vanilla Fighter8 using 2 weapons, who has burned 2-3 feats on improving his skills, exceed in damage output a vanilla Fighter8 using a 2-handed weapon who has used all his feats on skill focus and save buffs.That's it.&nbsp; It's really pretty basic.&nbsp; The sword-n-board guy gets better AC for less damage.&nbsp; The 2-handed weapon guy does big damage for less AC.&nbsp; The 2 weapon user... well, as it stands currently, he gets to have a lower AC and do less damage than either the first two fighting styles.&nbsp; It's like, huh?&nbsp; Just seems silly to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 2277824, member: 9002"] Well, granted, you have the option to wade into melee with a limp chicken and a brisket of beef. I meant "option" as in, "viable option." As is stands, a melee specialist using 2 weapons just stinks compared to ye olde 2-handed weapon user (it's not just a greatsword problem): a) feats on top of feats on top of feats requires to almost but not quite match Fighter w/ 2-handed weapon who is not using feats. This is true at level 1, 5, 10, 15, 20. Give the 2-handed weapon guy as many feats as the 2-weapon guy burned, and he's miles ahead. b) You have to enchant 2 blades instead of one. Obvious. c) You only get full attacks maybe 50% of the time. The rest of the time you just have to move & hit once; big advantage to the 2-handed weapon. d) power attack advantages, etc. etc. e) etc. I don't think it's asking too much to have a vanilla Fighter8 using 2 weapons, who has burned 2-3 feats on improving his skills, exceed in damage output a vanilla Fighter8 using a 2-handed weapon who has used all his feats on skill focus and save buffs. That's it. It's really pretty basic. The sword-n-board guy gets better AC for less damage. The 2-handed weapon guy does big damage for less AC. The 2 weapon user... well, as it stands currently, he gets to have a lower AC and do less damage than either the first two fighting styles. It's like, huh? Just seems silly to me. [/QUOTE]

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