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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2278009" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Careful. He was in error, but so are you.</p><p></p><p>The chance to threaten is not the same (two attacks at 19-20 versus one), but the chance to crit is also not the same.</p><p></p><p>His example was for a full round attack. The chances to critical on a normal 50% chance to hit is:</p><p></p><p>TWF: 10% * 40% + 10% * 40% = 8%</p><p>THF: 10% * 50% = 5%</p><p></p><p>So, the two weapon fighter has a greater chance to critical in a full round attack and also criticals more often.</p><p></p><p>However, in a single attack, the two handed weapon fighter has a greater chance (5% vs. 4% in this case) to critical. In a single attack, the chance to threaten for both weapons is the same (as long as the chance to hit is 20% or greater), the chance to critical is always different.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But, what I think he was really talking about was the chance to do additional damage via a critical and how much that average damage is. For his house rule, it would be:</p><p></p><p>TWF: 10% * 40% * (D6+4) + 10% * 40% * (D6+4) = 0.6</p><p>THF: 10% * 50% * (D12+6) = 0.625</p><p></p><p>And there, he was basically correct. The two handed weapon fighter does average more damage due to his criticals.</p><p></p><p>And, the two handed weapon fighter averages even more damage on a single attack (e.g. Attack of Opportunity or a single attack in a round). There, it is 0.625 versus 0.3 extra points of damage on average.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2278009, member: 2011"] Careful. He was in error, but so are you. The chance to threaten is not the same (two attacks at 19-20 versus one), but the chance to crit is also not the same. His example was for a full round attack. The chances to critical on a normal 50% chance to hit is: TWF: 10% * 40% + 10% * 40% = 8% THF: 10% * 50% = 5% So, the two weapon fighter has a greater chance to critical in a full round attack and also criticals more often. However, in a single attack, the two handed weapon fighter has a greater chance (5% vs. 4% in this case) to critical. In a single attack, the chance to threaten for both weapons is the same (as long as the chance to hit is 20% or greater), the chance to critical is always different. But, what I think he was really talking about was the chance to do additional damage via a critical and how much that average damage is. For his house rule, it would be: TWF: 10% * 40% * (D6+4) + 10% * 40% * (D6+4) = 0.6 THF: 10% * 50% * (D12+6) = 0.625 And there, he was basically correct. The two handed weapon fighter does average more damage due to his criticals. And, the two handed weapon fighter averages even more damage on a single attack (e.g. Attack of Opportunity or a single attack in a round). There, it is 0.625 versus 0.3 extra points of damage on average. [/QUOTE]
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