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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2280113" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I've always thought the opposite until 3.5 came out.</p><p></p><p>Then, Power Attack for 2 handed weapons got abusive.</p><p></p><p>Now, I consider it fairly even.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for defensive boost of the shield, I disagree.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There are more defensive melee items than offensive melee items in the game.</p><p></p><p>So, a 20th level Fighter with a 28 Str (with items) and a +5 weapon and +1 weapon focus is +35 to hit.</p><p></p><p>The defense against this can be Full Plate and Shield (AC 20), +5 Ring of Protection, +5 shield, +5 armor, +5 Combat Expertise, +3 Dex (Mithral Armor and Dex item), +1 Dodge bonus = AC 44</p><p></p><p>So, a 60% chance to hit on the first attack, a 35% on the second, a 10% on the third and a 5% on the last.</p><p></p><p>Or, an average of one hit per round, maybe a little higher due to a Keen weapon or something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Two Handed Weapon Fighter can only get this high of an AC if he uses an Animated Shield which at high level is very possible. However, it is also very obvious how he is defending himself and intelligent opponents should attempt to take such a shield out (e.g. Sunder, Dispel Magic, etc.).</p><p></p><p></p><p>If he does not have an animated shield (which I consider a broke item anyway since it totally skews game balance), then his best AC (more or less) is 37 (if he too does Combat Expertise at full level). He will get hit 85% chance to hit on the first attack, a 60% on the second, a 35% on the third and a 10% on the last, or closer to two times per round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2280113, member: 2011"] I've always thought the opposite until 3.5 came out. Then, Power Attack for 2 handed weapons got abusive. Now, I consider it fairly even. As for defensive boost of the shield, I disagree. There are more defensive melee items than offensive melee items in the game. So, a 20th level Fighter with a 28 Str (with items) and a +5 weapon and +1 weapon focus is +35 to hit. The defense against this can be Full Plate and Shield (AC 20), +5 Ring of Protection, +5 shield, +5 armor, +5 Combat Expertise, +3 Dex (Mithral Armor and Dex item), +1 Dodge bonus = AC 44 So, a 60% chance to hit on the first attack, a 35% on the second, a 10% on the third and a 5% on the last. Or, an average of one hit per round, maybe a little higher due to a Keen weapon or something. The Two Handed Weapon Fighter can only get this high of an AC if he uses an Animated Shield which at high level is very possible. However, it is also very obvious how he is defending himself and intelligent opponents should attempt to take such a shield out (e.g. Sunder, Dispel Magic, etc.). If he does not have an animated shield (which I consider a broke item anyway since it totally skews game balance), then his best AC (more or less) is 37 (if he too does Combat Expertise at full level). He will get hit 85% chance to hit on the first attack, a 60% on the second, a 35% on the third and a 10% on the last, or closer to two times per round. [/QUOTE]
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