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<blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 2286180" data-attributes="member: 6939"><p>In melee/war, sure. But check out the tournaments. There it was very common for 2 handed swords, because it was one-on-one. Also, in war, the emphasis was on defense, not offense. In DnD, we don't care about taking damage, because it doesn't hurt, and we can get easily healed.</p><p></p><p>1) in group/war fighting. DnD is more about 1-1 fighting.</p><p>2) *started* as a peasant weapon. But used extensively by highly trained military units.</p><p>3) Huh? Where? a single handed sword, no shield, would only be used as a last resort. (or during the 'rapier' years)</p><p>4) *and* in 1-1 fighting, and tournament, etc. *and* in war but not in formation. *very* common form.</p><p>5) Mostly only 'late period' in 1-1 dueling scenarios.</p><p></p><p> YOu need to do more research, they were used in tournament, and by some fighting units. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you assuming this? Or are you using SCA as a justification? I don't know how they use greatswords where you are from, but every kingdom/war I have been in, I could stand next to a greatsword fighter ally and not be worried. A greatsword is *not* used like an out of control baseball bat</p><p></p><p> HUH!!??!! Granted, due to the SCA rules, there is little reason to use the GS compared to a polearm. But your claims are still pretty far off the mark. They are no 'clumsier' etc than a polearm, and those are pretty useful. Lets think about that. Tennis: you are weilding a very light 'weapon', trying to intercept an even lighter object, and the amount of force you deliver is inconsequencial. Hmmm.. sounds like a *very* different situation. How about chopping down a tree? Or chopping wood? Or using a bayonet? or anything where you are using a heavier object, and force matters. (Heck, even hitting a baseball, try it one handed sometime. Should be easier, afterall, you should be so much faster....) </p><p></p><p> Yes, and the *same* was done with greatswords. It was called 'half-swording' and allowed you to get very powerful attacks when in close.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am sorry, but that is ridiculous. Try hitting someone with a baseball bat one handed, not try it two handed. Which is 'faster'?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coredump, post: 2286180, member: 6939"] In melee/war, sure. But check out the tournaments. There it was very common for 2 handed swords, because it was one-on-one. Also, in war, the emphasis was on defense, not offense. In DnD, we don't care about taking damage, because it doesn't hurt, and we can get easily healed. 1) in group/war fighting. DnD is more about 1-1 fighting. 2) *started* as a peasant weapon. But used extensively by highly trained military units. 3) Huh? Where? a single handed sword, no shield, would only be used as a last resort. (or during the 'rapier' years) 4) *and* in 1-1 fighting, and tournament, etc. *and* in war but not in formation. *very* common form. 5) Mostly only 'late period' in 1-1 dueling scenarios. YOu need to do more research, they were used in tournament, and by some fighting units. Are you assuming this? Or are you using SCA as a justification? I don't know how they use greatswords where you are from, but every kingdom/war I have been in, I could stand next to a greatsword fighter ally and not be worried. A greatsword is *not* used like an out of control baseball bat HUH!!??!! Granted, due to the SCA rules, there is little reason to use the GS compared to a polearm. But your claims are still pretty far off the mark. They are no 'clumsier' etc than a polearm, and those are pretty useful. Lets think about that. Tennis: you are weilding a very light 'weapon', trying to intercept an even lighter object, and the amount of force you deliver is inconsequencial. Hmmm.. sounds like a *very* different situation. How about chopping down a tree? Or chopping wood? Or using a bayonet? or anything where you are using a heavier object, and force matters. (Heck, even hitting a baseball, try it one handed sometime. Should be easier, afterall, you should be so much faster....) Yes, and the *same* was done with greatswords. It was called 'half-swording' and allowed you to get very powerful attacks when in close. I am sorry, but that is ridiculous. Try hitting someone with a baseball bat one handed, not try it two handed. Which is 'faster'? [/QUOTE]
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