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Making a level 6 bard with each NPC Generator
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<blockquote data-quote="Noumenon" data-source="post: 4841174" data-attributes="member: 70102"><p>This is an idiosyncratic review of the various NPC generators I have come across, based on how close they can come to making a level 6 Bard for 3.5 that I can use as a monster right then and there.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.myth-weavers.com/generate_npc.php" target="_blank">NPC Generator at Myth-Weavers</a>: This seemed like the state of the art the first time I Googled for NPC Generators about a year ago. A lot of better stuff has come to my attention since then.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Here's the bard<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" />Tabitha, female human Brd6: CR 6; Size M (5 ft., 1 in.</p><p>tall); HD 6d6+12; hp 30; Init +0; Spd 30 ft.; AC 10; Attack</p><p>+3 melee, or +4 ranged; SV Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +4; AL NG;</p><p>Str 9, Dex 11, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 9, Cha 14.</p><p></p><p>Languages Spoken: Common, Dwarven, Gnome.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Skills and feats: Concentration +8, Craft (Sculpting) +10,</p><p>Craft (Stonemasonry) +4, Hide +0, Knowledge (Local) +11,</p><p>Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty) +11, Listen -1, Move</p><p>Silently +0, Perform (Comedy) +11, Perform (Dance) +10,</p><p>Perform (Percussion Instruments) +10, Perform (Sing) +11,</p><p>Perform (Wind Instruments) +11, Spot +1; Blind-Fight, Combat</p><p>Casting, Diligent, Scribe Scroll.</p><p></p><p>Possessions: 5,600 gp in gear.</p><p></p><p>Bard Spells Known (3/4/3): 0th -- Detect Magic, Know</p><p>Direction, Light, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Read Magic.</p><p>1st -- Animate Rope, Cause Fear, Magic Aura, Sleep. 2nd --</p><p>Blur, Cat's Grace, Hold Person.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Good: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats and especially spells picked out for you.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Name generated.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Bad: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats not applied to statblock (Diligent, but no ranks in Appraise)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">10 ranks in Craft (Sculpting)?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AC 10. That is, no gear. Just says "5600 gp in gear."</li> </ul><p></p><p>Not good enough. I quit using this generator.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.dinglesgames.com/tools/NPCGenerator/dnd35" target="_blank">Dingle's Games</a>: Here's one of the new crop. Much more technologically advanced.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Here's the bard<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></p><p>Name:</p><p> (Medium Humanoid)</p><p> level 6 (skill points 72) </p><p>Hit die: 0d8+6d6(21hp)</p><p>Init: 2</p><p>Speed: 30</p><p>AC: 16 +0 Chain Shirt +0 Shield, none</p><p>AC flat footed :14</p><p>AC Touch: 12</p><p>Base Attack/Grapple: 4/5</p><p>Attack: +6 (+1/+1) Mace, light 1d6+2</p><p>Full attack: +6 (+1/+1) Mace, light 1d6+2</p><p>Space/Reach: 5/5</p><p>Special Attacks: </p><p>Fascinate Can fascinate 1 creature + 1 every 3 levels</p><p>Suggestion Can make suggestion to a fascinated creature</p><p>Special Qualities: </p><p>Bardic Knowledge Level + Int bonus</p><p>Bardic Music Can use songs once a day per level</p><p>Countersong May use bards perform for save vrs sound</p><p>Inspire Competence +2 competence on skill </p><p>Inspire Courage morale bonus on charm, fear,attack, damage 1</p><p>Saves: Fort +2, Ref +7, Will +4</p><p>Abilities: Str 12, Dex 14, Con 11, Int 13, Wis 9, Chr 16</p><p>Skills: Appraise 3, Balance 7, Bluff 12, Concentration 9, Decipher Script 8, Diplomacy 14, Disguise 7, Escape Artist 0, Gather Information 12, Know arcana 1, Know arch & eng 1, Know dungeon 1, Know geography 1, Know history 1, Know local 1, Know nature 1, Know religion 1, Know the planes 1, Listen 8, Perform 12, </p><p>Feats: Ability Focus, Armour prof light, Blind-fight, Shield Proficiency, Simple Weapon Proficiency, </p><p>CR: 7</p><p>Spells Known: </p><p> </p><p> Spells </p><p>Level 0 (3) DC 13</p><p>Dancing Lights(Evocation)[Light ] X 6</p><p> V,S rng: Medium 100ft + 10ft / level Dur: 1 minute (D)</p><p> SV None Area: Up to four lights, all within a 10-ft.-radius area</p><p>Level 1 (4) DC 14</p><p>Alarm(Abjuration)[ ] X 4</p><p> V,S, F/DF rng: Close 25ft + 5ft/2 levels Dur: 2 hours/level (D)</p><p> SV None Area: 20-ft.-radius emanation centered on a point in space</p><p>Level 2 (3) DC 15</p><p>Alter Self(Transmutation)[ ] X 3</p><p> V,S rng: Personal Dur: 10 min./level (D)</p><p> SV N/A Area: You</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> MAGIC ITEMS (max value 7200) </p><p></p><p>Weapon Magic (+1) +1 to Hit +1 Dam (2000gp)</p><p></p><p> Total Value = 2000 </p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>The good:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Maxed out appropriate skills</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lets you easily pick feats with a dropdown box and put them in the stat block</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Actually gives you a little summary of each of the spells you picked so you can run the guy without looking up spells! Very, very nice.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can just manually edit the stats if you want them higher.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Includes all the bard's class abilities with a short description.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tells you how much gp you have and how much the gear you get costs -- major time savings from looking up the NPC gear value and item costs in the book.</li> </ul><p></p><p>The bad: </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Human bard listed as CR 7, not CR 6</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When you buy a magic weapon it adjusts the to hit for your weapon, which is good. But when you adjust your weapon to have a magic bonus, it doesn't charge you for a magic item.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You gotta pick all your magic items yourself, so this is more of a "complete character generator" and less of a "quick NPC generator."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not sure where the Misc bonuses to diplomacy and disguise are coming from -- edit: skill synergy, duh</li> </ul><p></p><p>This is a pretty sweet generator. But what I, personally, need, is something that will pick generic gear, feats, and spells so I can run the NPC with no work at all. Including the summaries of the bard abilities and spells is a great step toward that. And if you have to pick gear, at least showing all the magic item costs makes it quick and easy to do.</p><p></p><p>This site is still under development. Hopefully it will stick around and keep improving. It's a quantum leap over Myth-Weavers.</p><p></p><p>I'm gonna post this now so my computer doesn't crash and eat it. Next up: DM Genie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noumenon, post: 4841174, member: 70102"] This is an idiosyncratic review of the various NPC generators I have come across, based on how close they can come to making a level 6 Bard for 3.5 that I can use as a monster right then and there. [URL="http://www.myth-weavers.com/generate_npc.php"]NPC Generator at Myth-Weavers[/URL]: This seemed like the state of the art the first time I Googled for NPC Generators about a year ago. A lot of better stuff has come to my attention since then. [sblock=Here's the bard:]Tabitha, female human Brd6: CR 6; Size M (5 ft., 1 in. tall); HD 6d6+12; hp 30; Init +0; Spd 30 ft.; AC 10; Attack +3 melee, or +4 ranged; SV Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +4; AL NG; Str 9, Dex 11, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 9, Cha 14. Languages Spoken: Common, Dwarven, Gnome. Skills and feats: Concentration +8, Craft (Sculpting) +10, Craft (Stonemasonry) +4, Hide +0, Knowledge (Local) +11, Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty) +11, Listen -1, Move Silently +0, Perform (Comedy) +11, Perform (Dance) +10, Perform (Percussion Instruments) +10, Perform (Sing) +11, Perform (Wind Instruments) +11, Spot +1; Blind-Fight, Combat Casting, Diligent, Scribe Scroll. Possessions: 5,600 gp in gear. Bard Spells Known (3/4/3): 0th -- Detect Magic, Know Direction, Light, Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Read Magic. 1st -- Animate Rope, Cause Fear, Magic Aura, Sleep. 2nd -- Blur, Cat's Grace, Hold Person.[/sblock] Good: [LIST] [*]Feats and especially spells picked out for you. [*]Name generated. [/list] Bad: [LIST] [*]Feats not applied to statblock (Diligent, but no ranks in Appraise) [*]10 ranks in Craft (Sculpting)? [*]AC 10. That is, no gear. Just says "5600 gp in gear." [/LIST] Not good enough. I quit using this generator. [URL="http://www.dinglesgames.com/tools/NPCGenerator/dnd35"]Dingle's Games[/URL]: Here's one of the new crop. Much more technologically advanced. [sblock=Here's the bard:] Name: (Medium Humanoid) level 6 (skill points 72) Hit die: 0d8+6d6(21hp) Init: 2 Speed: 30 AC: 16 +0 Chain Shirt +0 Shield, none AC flat footed :14 AC Touch: 12 Base Attack/Grapple: 4/5 Attack: +6 (+1/+1) Mace, light 1d6+2 Full attack: +6 (+1/+1) Mace, light 1d6+2 Space/Reach: 5/5 Special Attacks: Fascinate Can fascinate 1 creature + 1 every 3 levels Suggestion Can make suggestion to a fascinated creature Special Qualities: Bardic Knowledge Level + Int bonus Bardic Music Can use songs once a day per level Countersong May use bards perform for save vrs sound Inspire Competence +2 competence on skill Inspire Courage morale bonus on charm, fear,attack, damage 1 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +7, Will +4 Abilities: Str 12, Dex 14, Con 11, Int 13, Wis 9, Chr 16 Skills: Appraise 3, Balance 7, Bluff 12, Concentration 9, Decipher Script 8, Diplomacy 14, Disguise 7, Escape Artist 0, Gather Information 12, Know arcana 1, Know arch & eng 1, Know dungeon 1, Know geography 1, Know history 1, Know local 1, Know nature 1, Know religion 1, Know the planes 1, Listen 8, Perform 12, Feats: Ability Focus, Armour prof light, Blind-fight, Shield Proficiency, Simple Weapon Proficiency, CR: 7 Spells Known: Spells Level 0 (3) DC 13 Dancing Lights(Evocation)[Light ] X 6 V,S rng: Medium 100ft + 10ft / level Dur: 1 minute (D) SV None Area: Up to four lights, all within a 10-ft.-radius area Level 1 (4) DC 14 Alarm(Abjuration)[ ] X 4 V,S, F/DF rng: Close 25ft + 5ft/2 levels Dur: 2 hours/level (D) SV None Area: 20-ft.-radius emanation centered on a point in space Level 2 (3) DC 15 Alter Self(Transmutation)[ ] X 3 V,S rng: Personal Dur: 10 min./level (D) SV N/A Area: You MAGIC ITEMS (max value 7200) Weapon Magic (+1) +1 to Hit +1 Dam (2000gp) Total Value = 2000 [/sblock] The good: [LIST] [*]Maxed out appropriate skills [*]Lets you easily pick feats with a dropdown box and put them in the stat block [*]Actually gives you a little summary of each of the spells you picked so you can run the guy without looking up spells! Very, very nice. [*]You can just manually edit the stats if you want them higher. [*]Includes all the bard's class abilities with a short description. [*]Tells you how much gp you have and how much the gear you get costs -- major time savings from looking up the NPC gear value and item costs in the book. [/LIST] The bad: [LIST] [*]Human bard listed as CR 7, not CR 6 [*]When you buy a magic weapon it adjusts the to hit for your weapon, which is good. But when you adjust your weapon to have a magic bonus, it doesn't charge you for a magic item. [*]You gotta pick all your magic items yourself, so this is more of a "complete character generator" and less of a "quick NPC generator." [*]Not sure where the Misc bonuses to diplomacy and disguise are coming from -- edit: skill synergy, duh [/LIST] This is a pretty sweet generator. But what I, personally, need, is something that will pick generic gear, feats, and spells so I can run the NPC with no work at all. Including the summaries of the bard abilities and spells is a great step toward that. And if you have to pick gear, at least showing all the magic item costs makes it quick and easy to do. This site is still under development. Hopefully it will stick around and keep improving. It's a quantum leap over Myth-Weavers. I'm gonna post this now so my computer doesn't crash and eat it. Next up: DM Genie. [/QUOTE]
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