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<blockquote data-quote="Skallgrim" data-source="post: 5011287" data-attributes="member: 79271">I don't know that I would treat this as a skill challenge either.&nbsp; I love the gothic and sad quality that the scenario has, and I don't think it needs a challenge.The woman approaches and begs the PCs for help.&nbsp; Insight can help here, in determining her sincerity, and a very difficult Arcana or Religion check might in fact identify her as a ghost.&nbsp; That wouldn't be a skill challenge, per se, but it would help the PCs decide to help her (she's telling the truth) and possibly clue them in to what is going on (This is a ghost...let's see what is up!).&nbsp; Still, the decision to help would be up to the PCs.Removing the stones would probably, depending on their weight, require a Strength check with Aid Another options.&nbsp; You might even allow Endurance checks to remove the rocks more quickly, at the risk of becoming fatigued (on a failed endurance roll).&nbsp; On the other hand, you don't really want the PCs to roll a bad roll and fail to get a boon just because the burly barbarian rolled a 1.&nbsp; You also don't want them to sit back and watch as the barbarian and fighter clear the rocks because the wizard might blow a roll&nbsp; and drop a rock on the child.&nbsp; He can still help with smaller rocks, holding them as they are shifted, etc.&nbsp; However, the end result (clearing the stones to reveal the tragedy) shouldn't be in question, unless the PCs deliberately give up or act flippant (I stand on top of the pile and kick rocks off in every direction!). The rock clearing is simply the heroic labor to illustrate their concern for others.I would let PCs make skill checks in this encounter, but the encounter itself seems to be largely about their decisions and actions, and understanding.&nbsp; Do we help the woman?&nbsp; How do we act while doing so (concerned, solicitous, resentful, reluctant)? What do we do when we realize what has happened (are we appropriately sad or do we complain about this stupid ghost?).&nbsp; What happens as a result of our actions (are be blessed by a grateful spirit, or do we establish ourselves as heroes in name only)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Skallgrim, post: 5011287, member: 79271"] I don't know that I would treat this as a skill challenge either. I [I]love[/I] the gothic and sad quality that the scenario has, and I don't think it needs a challenge. The woman approaches and begs the PCs for help. Insight can help here, in determining her sincerity, and a very difficult Arcana or Religion check might in fact identify her as a ghost. That wouldn't be a skill challenge, per se, but it would help the PCs decide to help her (she's telling the truth) and possibly clue them in to what is going on (This is a ghost...let's see what is up!). Still, the decision to help would be up to the PCs. Removing the stones would probably, depending on their weight, require a Strength check with Aid Another options. You might even allow Endurance checks to remove the rocks more quickly, at the risk of becoming fatigued (on a failed endurance roll). On the other hand, you don't really want the PCs to roll a bad roll and fail to get a boon just because the burly barbarian rolled a 1. You also don't want them to sit back and watch as the barbarian and fighter clear the rocks because the wizard might blow a roll and drop a rock on the child. He can still help with smaller rocks, holding them as they are shifted, etc. However, the end result (clearing the stones to reveal the tragedy) shouldn't be in question, unless the PCs deliberately give up or act flippant (I stand on top of the pile and kick rocks off in every direction!). The rock clearing is simply the heroic labor to illustrate their concern for others. I would let PCs make skill checks in this encounter, but the encounter itself seems to be largely about their decisions and actions, and understanding. Do we help the woman? How do we act while doing so (concerned, solicitous, resentful, reluctant)? What do we do when we realize what has happened (are we appropriately sad or do we complain about this stupid ghost?). What happens as a result of our actions (are be blessed by a grateful spirit, or do we establish ourselves as heroes in name only)? [/QUOTE]

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