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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 5011382" data-attributes="member: 54846">And yet to me that's a skill challenge. The criteria for &quot;What a skill challenge is&quot;:1) Involves more than one roll,2) Failure is an option, and is a setback or other negative consequence.Failure doesn't just mean &quot;oh well you don't get anything out of it you stop&quot;. As it was pointed out above, it could just take longer. It could also become darker - the pile 'sinks', obviously crushing anything underneath. But the wailing only gets louder, and the sky grows darker, the wind harsher - do you keep digging? By simply using it as a skill challenge, I'm getting everyone involved. If it wasn't, then why wouldn't they let the fighter/barbarian do the heavy lifting and that be the end of it? By making it a skill challenge, I'm pushing them to use their skills. And I started this thread so that I could offer choices for those skills instead of making the wizard use athletics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 5011382, member: 54846"] And yet to me that's a skill challenge. The criteria for "What a skill challenge is": 1) Involves more than one roll, 2) Failure is an option, and is a setback or other negative consequence. Failure doesn't just mean "oh well you don't get anything out of it you stop". As it was pointed out above, it could just take [I]longer[/I]. It could also become darker - the pile 'sinks', obviously crushing anything underneath. But the wailing only gets louder, and the sky grows darker, the wind harsher - do you keep digging? By simply using it as a skill challenge, I'm getting everyone involved. If it [I]wasn't[/I], then why wouldn't they let the fighter/barbarian do the heavy lifting and that be the end of it? By [I]making[/I] it a skill challenge, I'm pushing them to use their skills. And I started this thread so that I could [I]offer[/I] choices for those skills [i]instead[/i] of making the wizard use athletics. [/QUOTE]

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