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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfaun" data-source="post: 4146415" data-attributes="member: 55366"><p>Well, yes, sort of, but the Malleus Maleficarum was a work of propaganda and fearmongering that was clearly written to be a tool in destroying heterodoxy and shore up the authority of the Pope. Before the Malleus and the Inquisition, the holidays and traditions that were a remnant of European Paganism were generally considered to be harmless heathen nonsense, not devil worship. Yes, huge generalization, but c'mon, it's a gaming forum. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Most importantly, it wasn't a work of anthropology. There are reports by Roman historians and early church scholars that actually described the rites of druids and other pagan priests/worshipers which are more historically useful. Just like you shouldn't use the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a work of scholarly study on Judaism, you shouldn't read the Malleus and consider yourself familiar with what real Medieval European pagans actually did. </p><p></p><p>All that said, I absolutely agree that the word "witch" has been dominated by connotations of devil-worship in the past few centuries, and the Malleus and Inquisition (and Puritans a century and change later) are the reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the OP's question, I agree that it all depends on one's concept of witchcraft. Mine, for instance, would be a rural and rustic "wise woman" trained in a mistress-apprentice tradition with a pragmatic mixture of supernatural tricks. Primal magic, psionics, arcane rituals, herbal medicines and poisons, maybe even divine magic from moon-worship or following the green goddess and horned god. As for the classes available in the PHB, seems like fey-pact warlock mixed with cleric might be the way to go, or just make your own.</p><p></p><p>Also, yay Granny Weatherwax. And Tiffany Aching. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfaun, post: 4146415, member: 55366"] Well, yes, sort of, but the Malleus Maleficarum was a work of propaganda and fearmongering that was clearly written to be a tool in destroying heterodoxy and shore up the authority of the Pope. Before the Malleus and the Inquisition, the holidays and traditions that were a remnant of European Paganism were generally considered to be harmless heathen nonsense, not devil worship. Yes, huge generalization, but c'mon, it's a gaming forum. :) Most importantly, it wasn't a work of anthropology. There are reports by Roman historians and early church scholars that actually described the rites of druids and other pagan priests/worshipers which are more historically useful. Just like you shouldn't use the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a work of scholarly study on Judaism, you shouldn't read the Malleus and consider yourself familiar with what real Medieval European pagans actually did. All that said, I absolutely agree that the word "witch" has been dominated by connotations of devil-worship in the past few centuries, and the Malleus and Inquisition (and Puritans a century and change later) are the reason. As for the OP's question, I agree that it all depends on one's concept of witchcraft. Mine, for instance, would be a rural and rustic "wise woman" trained in a mistress-apprentice tradition with a pragmatic mixture of supernatural tricks. Primal magic, psionics, arcane rituals, herbal medicines and poisons, maybe even divine magic from moon-worship or following the green goddess and horned god. As for the classes available in the PHB, seems like fey-pact warlock mixed with cleric might be the way to go, or just make your own. Also, yay Granny Weatherwax. And Tiffany Aching. :) [/QUOTE]
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