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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9110384" data-attributes="member: 6801845">One of the things that was fun/broken in 3.x was stacking buffs and the finicky nature.&nbsp; What made it worse for one of my characters was that the PC was a two-weapon fighter and each weapon had multiple energy types at higher level.&nbsp; Add in power attack and penalties for multiple attacks.&nbsp; It was a lot.The option on top of option was just too much for a lot of people.&nbsp; I worked things out so that I had a worksheet - a cheat sheet that I would use to check off which buffs I had up, what they added.&nbsp; I then had literal handfuls of color-coded dice that I would roll. I think I was up to over 50 dice for a full attack, but I could roll them all at the same time (towards the end it took 2 handfuls) and then add them up before it came to my turn.&nbsp; If something changed, I knew what order the attacks happened in so I could just ignore subsequent changes if they didn't happen.But without my spreadsheet?&nbsp; If I rolled one die at a time like so many people still do? Would have taken forever.&nbsp; Still a bit of an issue with multiple attacks, but still a magnitude fewer number of dice involved.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9110384, member: 6801845"] One of the things that was fun/broken in 3.x was stacking buffs and the finicky nature. What made it worse for one of my characters was that the PC was a two-weapon fighter and each weapon had multiple energy types at higher level. Add in power attack and penalties for multiple attacks. It was a lot. The option on top of option was just too much for a lot of people. I worked things out so that I had a worksheet - a cheat sheet that I would use to check off which buffs I had up, what they added. I then had literal handfuls of color-coded dice that I would roll. I think I was up to over 50 dice for a full attack, but I could roll them all at the same time (towards the end it took 2 handfuls) and then add them up before it came to my turn. If something changed, I knew what order the attacks happened in so I could just ignore subsequent changes if they didn't happen. But without my spreadsheet? If I rolled one die at a time like so many people still do? Would have taken forever. Still a bit of an issue with multiple attacks, but still a magnitude fewer number of dice involved. [/QUOTE]

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