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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7545486" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Indeed it is! That’s why I’m asking for input.The armor section of the PHB is not just short and simple, it's also deliberately vague.&nbsp; For instance, some versions of half plate include helmet and gauntlets, others don't.&nbsp; Some half plates include simple greaves, others don't.&nbsp; Each player imagines their character how they like it.&nbsp; By detailing each part, you may actually end up restricting options rather than increasing them.</blockquote>I’m ok with that. I’m more interested in options with mechanical weight to them than options that are purely descriptive. The way I see it, a system like this is no less able to accommodate folks who want to describe their set of “full plate” as lamellar instead of gothic plate armor or whatever.I’ll definitely give those a look, thank you!Umm, wearing a cuirass over a hauberk was absolutely a thing. Granted, the mail wasn’t really helping on bits covered by plate,, but a hauberk was still useful for covering the upper thighs, arms, and especially the parts of the torso the cuirass didn’t cover, like the arm pits. Heck, the haubergeon was developed in part because cuisses.Mail too, pretty much up until the late 14th, early 15th century. And honestly, probably continuing after that for folks who couldn’t afford a full harness.Yeah, that’s more detail than I want to get bogged down in. Really just looking to model the modularity of armor, particularly transitional armor,&nbsp; and the layering of plate, over mail, over gambeson.Maybe that’s the way to go. Light armor = cloth, medium armor = mail, heavy armor = plate, with upgrades within the category representing adding more modular pieces. Like if instead of ringmail -&gt; chainmail -&gt; splint -&gt; plate, it went breastplate -&gt; breastplate with splint limb armor -&gt; breastplate with plate limb armor -&gt; full plate harness.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7545486, member: 6779196"] Indeed it is! That’s why I’m asking for input. The armor section of the PHB is not just short and simple, it's also deliberately vague. For instance, some versions of half plate include helmet and gauntlets, others don't. Some half plates include simple greaves, others don't. Each player imagines their character how they like it. By detailing each part, you may actually end up restricting options rather than increasing them.[/quote] I’m ok with that. I’m more interested in options with mechanical weight to them than options that are purely descriptive. The way I see it, a system like this is no less able to accommodate folks who want to describe their set of “full plate” as lamellar instead of gothic plate armor or whatever. I’ll definitely give those a look, thank you! Umm, wearing a cuirass over a hauberk was absolutely a thing. Granted, the mail wasn’t really helping on bits covered by plate,, but a hauberk was still useful for covering the upper thighs, arms, and especially the parts of the torso the cuirass didn’t cover, like the arm pits. Heck, the haubergeon was developed in part because cuisses. Mail too, pretty much up until the late 14th, early 15th century. And honestly, probably continuing after that for folks who couldn’t afford a full harness. Yeah, that’s more detail than I want to get bogged down in. Really just looking to model the modularity of armor, particularly transitional armor, and the layering of plate, over mail, over gambeson. Maybe that’s the way to go. Light armor = cloth, medium armor = mail, heavy armor = plate, with upgrades within the category representing adding more modular pieces. Like if instead of ringmail -> chainmail -> splint -> plate, it went breastplate -> breastplate with splint limb armor -> breastplate with plate limb armor -> full plate harness. [/QUOTE]

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