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<blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 5017427" data-attributes="member: 70267">AbdulAlhazred has it right.&nbsp; Your best bet is to use other races as your guide.&nbsp; This might be a good opportunity to involve the player.&nbsp; What froglike aspects of his PC does he want to espouse?&nbsp; I wouldn't let him loose on designing the specifics, but understanding what he is trying to get at it might give you some direction.&nbsp;When I think of frogs, I remember trying to catch the buggers as a kid.&nbsp; Man, they were slippery little quick buggers.&nbsp; I'd give it a power that let it escape doom 1/encounter.&nbsp; Throw off slowed or immobilized and a speed boost.&nbsp; If that seems a little weak, then give them somthing innate to compensate.&nbsp; That is something most races have, two or more defining characteristics.&nbsp; Give him a gimme, like a bonus to Endurance checks to hold his breath.&nbsp; A reach attack with his froglike tongue that pulls or slides.&nbsp; Your imagination really is the limit there.&nbsp;As for other races?&nbsp; I really like Kobolds, and I don't think the race as written needs any boost.&nbsp; Shifty is good, some might say *too* good.&nbsp; Some feats would be nice.&nbsp; 3.5 Kobolds really fleshed out as mini-dragons, with sorcerers and rogues benefiting from racial feats and racial levels.&nbsp; Their current stats don't really support a Sorcerer, so throwing a couple feats out there to sweeten the deal would be cool.&nbsp; With a +2 dex they seem a natural fit for wild mage, but their Draconic nature makes them a better flavor match for Dragon sorcery.&nbsp; Maybe a feat that lets them take aspects of one or both of those to better match their inherent nature.&nbsp; I'd like a feat that emphasizes Shifty, too.&nbsp; Since it is at-will and a minor action, the feat should be weak. . .how about if they use shifty to gain CA they don't provoke for ranged attacks?&nbsp; Not wild about that one.&nbsp;Goblins have the same stat boosts as Halflings, so I don't think it is terribly overpowered to open up the Halfling racial feats that are thematically appropriate to Goblins.&nbsp;Jay</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Turtlejay, post: 5017427, member: 70267"] AbdulAlhazred has it right. Your best bet is to use other races as your guide. This might be a good opportunity to involve the player. What froglike aspects of his PC does he want to espouse? I wouldn't let him loose on designing the specifics, but understanding what he is trying to get at it might give you some direction. When I think of frogs, I remember trying to catch the buggers as a kid. Man, they were slippery little quick buggers. I'd give it a power that let it escape doom 1/encounter. Throw off slowed or immobilized and a speed boost. If that seems a little weak, then give them somthing innate to compensate. That is something most races have, two or more defining characteristics. Give him a gimme, like a bonus to Endurance checks to hold his breath. A reach attack with his froglike tongue that pulls or slides. Your imagination really is the limit there. As for other races? I really like Kobolds, and I don't think the race as written needs any boost. Shifty is good, some might say *too* good. Some feats would be nice. 3.5 Kobolds really fleshed out as mini-dragons, with sorcerers and rogues benefiting from racial feats and racial levels. Their current stats don't really support a Sorcerer, so throwing a couple feats out there to sweeten the deal would be cool. With a +2 dex they seem a natural fit for wild mage, but their Draconic nature makes them a better flavor match for Dragon sorcery. Maybe a feat that lets them take aspects of one or both of those to better match their inherent nature. I'd like a feat that emphasizes Shifty, too. Since it is at-will and a minor action, the feat should be weak. . .how about if they use shifty to gain CA they don't provoke for ranged attacks? Not wild about that one. Goblins have the same stat boosts as Halflings, so I don't think it is terribly overpowered to open up the Halfling racial feats that are thematically appropriate to Goblins. Jay [/QUOTE]

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