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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8933759" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Indeed. That combat means you may not live past it makes it concerning; it does not make it matter. It is the things which give value to survival that matter. Conflating meaning with utility is a lamentably common mistake.A character dying every ten weeks would mean that by the end of the year, you'd have practically a brand new party. (EV: 5.2, SD: 2.16) Heck, there's a better than 25% chance that by the end of the first year, you'll have more than 6 deaths!And no, I don't think 2-3 deaths in a year is low. I think it is quite high. Especially since this is 2-3 extra deaths, completely separate from deaths due to failing death saves or other effects that kill characters (that is, petrification, the &quot;chunky salsa&quot; rule, etc.) 2-3 deaths a year means literally any investment I might put into my fellow characters is pointless; either my character will die, and thus nothing they cared about will matter, or most of their friends will die, and thus it won't matter that they were friends. Death is the ultimate investment killer. Why bother when you can be almost certain it'll all be gone in a few months?Or to use Dorothy Jones Heydt's &quot;eight deadly words&quot;: &quot;I don't care what happens to these people.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8933759, member: 6790260"] Indeed. That combat means you may not live past it makes it concerning; it does not make it [I]matter[/I]. It is the things which give value to survival that matter. Conflating meaning with utility is a lamentably common mistake. A character dying every ten weeks would mean that by the end of the year, you'd have practically a brand new party. (EV: 5.2, SD: 2.16) Heck, there's a better than 25% chance that by the end of the first year, you'll have more than 6 deaths! And no, I don't think 2-3 deaths in a year is low. I think it is quite high. Especially since this is 2-3 [I]extra[/I] deaths, [I]completely separate[/I] from deaths due to failing death saves or other effects that kill characters (that is, petrification, the "chunky salsa" rule, etc.) 2-3 deaths a year means literally any investment I might put into my fellow characters is pointless; either [I]my[/I] character will die, and thus nothing they cared about will matter, or most of their [I]friends[/I] will die, and thus it won't matter that they were friends. Death is the ultimate investment killer. Why bother when you can be almost certain it'll all be gone in a few months? Or to use Dorothy Jones Heydt's "eight deadly words": "[B]I don't care what happens to these people.[/B]" [/QUOTE]

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