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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pickles JG" data-source="post: 4737303" data-attributes="member: 61501">Bards look very interesting - there are a whole bunch of different builds that leap to mind (not that I am sure all of them are terribly effective). Here are some I have looked at (I even played one of them once). 1)      Skill Monkey. You can get all skills trained via multiclass feats by level 20 (16 as Human). Ironically you dump INT as the INT classes double up on Arcana. This gives you a raft of marginal powers & some quite decent ones (1-2 extra heals, Battle Awareness, Quarry, Sneak Attack, the ability to turn into a beast, a damage boost).  You trade some combat efficiency from your class feats but those mentioned abilities pick some back up. You might not want to go this nuts so fast – you have 6-8 spare feats that could be fed in earlier. 2)      Font of Knowledge. Bardic Knowledge does not stack with JoT so if you are planning to take the former training knowledge skills is worth +4, instead of +2 after JOT, so it is more tempting. If you are training skills you might as well use MC feats as you get some other benny. 3)      Dilettante. A lot of the MC feats are tasty in their own right & the skill training is free, even if it is only +2 effectively with JoT. You might be attracted to damage boost most of the striker feats give to you, all of which stack. As a Valorous Bard you might not even have the INT for JoT so the MC feats are even more appealing. This also opens up class feats & paragon paths, one or more of which might be very good for you. 4)      Weird MC thingy. It might be possible to cherry pick powers from pretty much any class you have the stats for then paragon MC. Some do not even really need a good attack stat – the wall types. I have not really explored this – there may be some cheesy horror combos but for myself I tend to like a fair number of the powers from any given class.</blockquote>

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