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<blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 2479494" data-attributes="member: 24969"><p>Lots of hide, move silently, missle weapons with run and fire while moving feats. I think they could do it right where they could begin movement behind an obstacle, move, fire while moving, and then finish movement behind an obstacle again. With some decent movement they could force the battle to be totally missle combat which they'd be min maxed for. Add poison for additional affect. Maybe even a str or dex based poison to cut the efficiency of the party because as Str falls, armored PCs will move slower if encumbered and as dex falls, their missle combat will suffer.</p><p></p><p>Pet animals. The half-orcs have animal handleing and have used it over the years to train "pets" which might even include monsters with special abilities.</p><p></p><p>Traps. If the half-orcs can force the battle to happen on home ground, then the PCs would be faced with traps the half-orcs have full knowledge of but the PCs don't have time to search for. Combine this with the missle based combat above and it could put the PCs in some trouble as if they try and close the distance they will run into traps. If they try and disarm or even search for traps, they'll be targets for missle fire. The bandits will of course go for spell casters first since they usually have the lowest AC and can cast ranged attacks.</p><p></p><p>Good escape routes. If the PCs ambush them or get the upper hand, they all run away leading PCs on a chase (see traps above). They'll regroup and try their own ambush later, hopefully after the PCs buffs have worn off.</p><p></p><p>Good intelligence. If the bandits have allies or agents in the lands the PCs are coming fro and the PCs have been too loud about what they're doing, the bandits may have all the information on them they want to set up an ambush. If the PCs take too much time and get too confident,t he bandits may be able to attack first before the party has even left civilization using tricks on an unsuspecting party to lure one or two members away and attack them while they're alone if they fall for it.</p><p></p><p>Dirty tricks. If they get information as above, does the party have freinds, family, contacts. The bandits may not be able to threaten the party, but they could threaten those that the party cares about. Would the party be willign to cut a deal if attacking the bandits meant subjecting others to attacks by bandits that have already left the camp and are in postition?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="painandgreed, post: 2479494, member: 24969"] Lots of hide, move silently, missle weapons with run and fire while moving feats. I think they could do it right where they could begin movement behind an obstacle, move, fire while moving, and then finish movement behind an obstacle again. With some decent movement they could force the battle to be totally missle combat which they'd be min maxed for. Add poison for additional affect. Maybe even a str or dex based poison to cut the efficiency of the party because as Str falls, armored PCs will move slower if encumbered and as dex falls, their missle combat will suffer. Pet animals. The half-orcs have animal handleing and have used it over the years to train "pets" which might even include monsters with special abilities. Traps. If the half-orcs can force the battle to happen on home ground, then the PCs would be faced with traps the half-orcs have full knowledge of but the PCs don't have time to search for. Combine this with the missle based combat above and it could put the PCs in some trouble as if they try and close the distance they will run into traps. If they try and disarm or even search for traps, they'll be targets for missle fire. The bandits will of course go for spell casters first since they usually have the lowest AC and can cast ranged attacks. Good escape routes. If the PCs ambush them or get the upper hand, they all run away leading PCs on a chase (see traps above). They'll regroup and try their own ambush later, hopefully after the PCs buffs have worn off. Good intelligence. If the bandits have allies or agents in the lands the PCs are coming fro and the PCs have been too loud about what they're doing, the bandits may have all the information on them they want to set up an ambush. If the PCs take too much time and get too confident,t he bandits may be able to attack first before the party has even left civilization using tricks on an unsuspecting party to lure one or two members away and attack them while they're alone if they fall for it. Dirty tricks. If they get information as above, does the party have freinds, family, contacts. The bandits may not be able to threaten the party, but they could threaten those that the party cares about. Would the party be willign to cut a deal if attacking the bandits meant subjecting others to attacks by bandits that have already left the camp and are in postition? [/QUOTE]
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