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<blockquote data-quote="malcolm_n" data-source="post: 6082906" data-attributes="member: 63154">I like where this is going. The idea that the weapon hurts up close is a good one, and I think we can maybe expand on the idea. Maybe within 1 range increment, they deal higher damage, or crit for more? It still means you want to be close, but you don't have to be in melee. Addons like scopes could maybe allow you to keep your bonus outside of the increment, since you can still pinpoint a crucial area.Describing overwatch as an option for ready-an-action works well enough. Since it's already something you can do anyway, we're basically just spelling it out for anybody who didn't think about it up front.In some of the Modern games I've played, suppressing fire usually required a feat to accomplish, but I could see it with automatic weapons. Do we also want to consider things like Double-tap? There's a d20 supplement by Green Ronin that could be scavenged for ideas called Ultramodern Firearms. It includes things like gun-clerics from Equilibrium, rules modifications for showdowns, etc. Converting some of that concept to PF wouldn't be difficult.A side note, I worry that as we make more changes we're approaching a different combat system. That's no problem from a design standpoint, but do we want to force players in the setting to use it? As it's written now, it's just an overlay on top of current rules. Players can use ranged or melee, though ranged is more readily available in the far future as it provides more options strategically. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight, as it were.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="malcolm_n, post: 6082906, member: 63154"] I like where this is going. The idea that the weapon hurts up close is a good one, and I think we can maybe expand on the idea. Maybe within 1 range increment, they deal higher damage, or crit for more? It still means you want to be close, but you don't have to be in melee. Addons like scopes could maybe allow you to keep your bonus outside of the increment, since you can still pinpoint a crucial area. Describing overwatch as an option for ready-an-action works well enough. Since it's already something you can do anyway, we're basically just spelling it out for anybody who didn't think about it up front. In some of the Modern games I've played, suppressing fire usually required a feat to accomplish, but I could see it with automatic weapons. Do we also want to consider things like Double-tap? There's a d20 supplement by Green Ronin that could be scavenged for ideas called Ultramodern Firearms. It includes things like gun-clerics from Equilibrium, rules modifications for showdowns, etc. Converting some of that concept to PF wouldn't be difficult. A side note, I worry that as we make more changes we're approaching a different combat system. That's no problem from a design standpoint, but do we want to force players in the setting to use it? As it's written now, it's just an overlay on top of current rules. Players can use ranged or melee, though ranged is more readily available in the far future as it provides more options strategically. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight, as it were. [/QUOTE]

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