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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 3119928" data-attributes="member: 12332">Hrm.  As Nadaka points out, that creates a few odd situations.  Surprise becomes, perhaps, too important ... the surprise round, your side acts, shooting or moving first.  Then initiative is rolled, but since your side acted first ANY ACTION the other side is likely to take provokes an AoO, so you get to shoot them all AGAIN when they try to move and then AGAIN when you take your actual action.And, oddly enough, in that situation ... doing nothing is the safest course of action.  If the other side can take AoOs at range ... anything more than a 5' step gets you shot twice, drawing a gun gets you shot twice, getting to cover gets you shot twice, shooting back gets you shot twice ... better to only let them shoot you one time by edging 5' at a time toward cover.The closest trenches during WWI that I've found record of are 90 feet apart ... most were more along the lines of 300-900 feet apart.  Using d20Modern movement, the first round of combat one side has to use a Move action to get out of their trench and then move across the battlefield, 30 feet.  60 feet if they have Heroic Surge ... 80 feet if they have Heroic Surge and 3 levels of Fast with increased movement.  Still 10' short of getting to the other side before the other guy gets an action.  And that's the worst-case scenario.Which, thinking about it, that's still no real defense.  If the other side gets init, then the guys in the opposite trench are Flat Footed and unable to take AoOs, so it's the same situation either way.  Unless everybody has Combat Reflexes.  Which, honestly, everybody probably would since it would be so much more effective that way.Now, I've seen some rules somewhere about doing this with "Cover Fire" ... laying down Cover Fire causes an X by X area to become threatened and gives you an AoO if anybody provokes in there.  --fje</blockquote>

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