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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 5762481" data-attributes="member: 20805">I think the easiest way to model that progression of ease of use is to treat a gun like a crossbow {both Heavy and Light versions} that has its range increments extended for each increase in technology {blunderbuss, smoothbore, flintlock, rifled, modern}&nbsp;Then toss in the special rule about reload/preparation time. Guns take move actions to load/prepare, which you can rush by taking a -2 penalty to your 'to hit'. This is in reverse of the increase in range:&nbsp; {blunderbuss -4, smoothbore -3 , flintlock - 2, rifled - 1, modern - none}A companion character can spend these move actions for you.&nbsp;Heavy guns take an additional reload/prepare action.This means a phalanx of early guns with 4 ranks can cycle forward and fire every round with decent accuracy at longer range than crossbows. That is a big enough advantage for the weapons to come into use, as long as they are relatively cheap to produce.I believe that guns should not be treated as more lethal than other weapons.. lethality is driven by the game systems hp/health mechanic. This means that in CP2020, guns are very lethal... as is pretty much everything else. In Elric, everything is still lethal {hps = your CON, longsword does 1D8}.. in DnD.. well, the heroes are heroes as mentioned above.One other note that just came to me. Bows and arrows take a specific set of skills to make ammunition that is good. Ball ammunition is simply melting down a soft metal and pouring it into a mold. {yes, this is simplified.. I know. But I just watched the Mythbusters with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwacha" target="_blank">Hwacha</a> in which they had to make 200 bolts for the weapon}&nbsp;This alone makes them cheaper and easier to use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 5762481, member: 20805"] I think the easiest way to model that progression of ease of use is to treat a gun like a crossbow {both Heavy and Light versions} that has its range increments extended for each increase in technology {blunderbuss, smoothbore, flintlock, rifled, modern} Then toss in the special rule about reload/preparation time. Guns take move actions to load/prepare, which you can rush by taking a -2 penalty to your 'to hit'. This is in reverse of the increase in range: {blunderbuss -4, smoothbore -3 , flintlock - 2, rifled - 1, modern - none} A companion character can spend these move actions for you. Heavy guns take an additional reload/prepare action. This means a phalanx of early guns with 4 ranks can cycle forward and fire every round with decent accuracy at longer range than crossbows. That is a big enough advantage for the weapons to come into use, as long as they are relatively cheap to produce. I believe that guns should not be treated as more lethal than other weapons.. lethality is driven by the game systems hp/health mechanic. This means that in CP2020, guns are very lethal... as is pretty much everything else. In Elric, everything is still lethal {hps = your CON, longsword does 1D8}.. in DnD.. well, the heroes are heroes as mentioned above. One other note that just came to me. Bows and arrows take a specific set of skills to make ammunition that is good. Ball ammunition is simply melting down a soft metal and pouring it into a mold. {yes, this is simplified.. I know. But I just watched the Mythbusters with the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwacha]Hwacha[/url] in which they had to make 200 bolts for the weapon} This alone makes them cheaper and easier to use. [/QUOTE]

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