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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4919311" data-attributes="member: 35909">Well, I don't really want everything with full BAB to full attack and move, anyway.  I also have never seen save -or - dies dominate the game, due to frequently high saves and monster immunities.  But maybe it's also because my group as a whoel finds them largely distasteful.  (Once in a while, it can be fun.  My gestalt Ninja/Cleric wanted to be the quintessential "Ask a Ninja" ninja, so it was freaking awesome one time when he knocked a wyvern out of the sky on round 1 with Phantasmal Killer.  That said, there were a bunch of other enemies in that encounter, wyvern was just the most dangerous, so it also didn't ruin the fight)Back on topic...I'd still like to see some opinions based on my initial conditions: I don't mind level 1 barbs having pounce in some form, but I also don't want it to remain the cheap dip that it's become in my group, and am looking for a houserule to retain the former and limit or remove the latter.  Thus far, the solutions have been to not let barbs have it at level 1, or give everyone with full BAB the ability.  I'm happy for the input...but I wasn't really looking for that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>