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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 4044124" data-attributes="member: 18363">This is somewhat similar to what I do, except that when a magic item is to be made, I have them make Knowledge checks to determine the best components. Sure, almost any magic item or part of a magical creature might contribute something towards the xp of making the item (Thus the reason magic users can use their own xp if they really wish to do so when making magic items.), but if you want the most bang for your buck, as the saying goes, you will seek out the best ingredients. If infusing a blade with the Flaming property, for example, it would be best if the components were (carefully) harvested from a fiery magical creature or item. So a quest will ensue to seek out and gather a feather of a phoenix, or heart of a wyrmling red dragon, or one or more weapons known to already have the flaming property, or several scrolls / wands with flaming magic in them, or a rare ore from a specific volcano known to be in a high magic region, and so forth. Of course, if the item is from a creature, and if it is well harvested (skill check involved), then the xp gained from defeating the creature is notably less. Similarly, there is not a one to one correspondence in xp - whether from creatures or from items. Scrolls and wands have temporary charges - it would take several xp from either to equate to one xp used for a permanent magic item (such as a Flaming sword). To help make up for some of the complexity this adds, I severely reduced the requirements for magic items. Spells are not needed if the items / creature parts drained of xp are already of the correct type, for example. Also, the number of feats needed to make magic items is severely reduced (1 charge items, multi-charge items, permanent items, multi-spell items, etc). So in the end, if you have the right type of ingredients, all that is really needed is correct caster level and a few successful Knowledge and Spellcraft checks.</blockquote>

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