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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7810723" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>1. Not every Athletics check <em>has</em> to be with STR. You could use DEX if you are using locks, etc. to grapple your foe and not brute force. I would still make it Athletics and not Acrobatics, however, and if you want to be able to do it better, take proficiency in Athletics. Simply because you don't like how it feels like it is nerfing your PC doesn't mean it needs a house-rule to fix it. And Way of the Open Hand does do a lot of the flavor of what you want to accomplish (as you said, you want to trip enemies, well, that <em>is</em> knocking them prone). Also, although that is specific to that archetype, not every monk should have the abilities you discuss as there are many different types of monks.</p><p></p><p>2. Climbing and jumping is, again, Athletics, not Acrobatics. However, you have a STR 10 and depending on <em>how</em> you want to climb and jump, you could discuss with the DM about allowing you to use DEX instead of STR.</p><p></p><p>Too many tables get locked into the idea of skills <em>always</em> being associated with one and only one ability score, which isn't the case IMO and shouldn't be. Consider Intimidation. If you are talking and threatening that way, sure CHA is the ability, but if you are flexing muscles and pushing someone around, it is definitely STR-based!</p><p></p><p>I don't think you should have to pump up your STR, but I do think proficiency in Athletics is a must and talking with your DM and the rest of about allowing you to utilitize DEX for some of the things you want to accomplish and not always STR.</p><p></p><p>Finally, even if you don't take proficiency in Athletics, consider that you can still do those things with DEX if you talk to your DM about how you want to do them. Without proficiency, you won't be as good of course, but then again think about how you'd be cheating a player who took proficiency in Athletics to be better, and now you are just as good at the same sort of things, but <em>you</em> get to do it with Acrobatics--how is that fair?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7810723, member: 6987520"] 1. Not every Athletics check [I]has[/I] to be with STR. You could use DEX if you are using locks, etc. to grapple your foe and not brute force. I would still make it Athletics and not Acrobatics, however, and if you want to be able to do it better, take proficiency in Athletics. Simply because you don't like how it feels like it is nerfing your PC doesn't mean it needs a house-rule to fix it. And Way of the Open Hand does do a lot of the flavor of what you want to accomplish (as you said, you want to trip enemies, well, that [I]is[/I] knocking them prone). Also, although that is specific to that archetype, not every monk should have the abilities you discuss as there are many different types of monks. 2. Climbing and jumping is, again, Athletics, not Acrobatics. However, you have a STR 10 and depending on [I]how[/I] you want to climb and jump, you could discuss with the DM about allowing you to use DEX instead of STR. Too many tables get locked into the idea of skills [I]always[/I] being associated with one and only one ability score, which isn't the case IMO and shouldn't be. Consider Intimidation. If you are talking and threatening that way, sure CHA is the ability, but if you are flexing muscles and pushing someone around, it is definitely STR-based! I don't think you should have to pump up your STR, but I do think proficiency in Athletics is a must and talking with your DM and the rest of about allowing you to utilitize DEX for some of the things you want to accomplish and not always STR. Finally, even if you don't take proficiency in Athletics, consider that you can still do those things with DEX if you talk to your DM about how you want to do them. Without proficiency, you won't be as good of course, but then again think about how you'd be cheating a player who took proficiency in Athletics to be better, and now you are just as good at the same sort of things, but [I]you[/I] get to do it with Acrobatics--how is that fair? [/QUOTE]
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