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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 1695649" data-attributes="member: 12909">I recommend strongly against this. A prestige class generally represents belonging to an organization - a specialization. It shouldn't take 20 levels to represent this. Often, it shouldn't take even 10 levels ... a lot of the abilities thrown in are filler. What are you trying to achieve by making a prestige class into a base class? BAB, skills, spellcasting, and saves can all be handled by the base classes that already exist. If you want variant base classes, I suggest taking a look at Monte Cooke's Arcana Unearthed - that is the one of the few sources besides the PHB where good flexible base classes have been presented. Also take a look at Unearthed Arcana for variants to the base classes.If after all that you want to make a prestige class into a base class ... look at the abilities it has, and compare those to existing base classes. BAB, save and skill point progression can generally be extrapolated without problems. Be careful with extrapolating spellcasting progression - some prestige classes intentionally have requirements that will force some loss of spellcasting. On that note, make sure the requirements are represented in the base class that you build: skills should be class skills, feats should be feats that one gets as class abilities in the first few levels (either that or they should take them with their feats from level progression). Regards the high level prestige class abilities - check what spell level they might be. e.g. If the prestige class gets Mind Blank 1/day ... well it's an 8th level spell ... probably shouldn't get that before 15th level in a base class progression (i.e. when a spellcaster would normally gain access to the spell).Just my thoughts ...</blockquote>

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