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<blockquote data-quote="Tenniel" data-source="post: 4821388" data-attributes="member: 61866">It's also strange that there is no way to dispel a ritual. So once a ritual is made permanent, unless it offers a way to counter it, there is no way to dispel it, ever.&nbsp;That's where the DM (the lord and master of game and never a slave to the mechanics) comes in.&nbsp; The evil cultists have set up permanent ritutals at heir secret hideout, the DM designs a skill challenge for the PCs to overcome the devices and infiltrate their base of operations.&nbsp; Fun.&nbsp;Perception checks to see a slight flaw to exploit in the magic circle.&nbsp; Acrobatics to Laura Croft your way through the area of effect.&nbsp; History to get background on the use of these devices and how they were overcome in the past.&nbsp; Arcana to recall the secret word to disable it.&nbsp;I used a similar set up for a break the &quot;magic circle (no doubt a permanent ritual) to retrieve the warded item (magic sword)&quot; skill challenge after the players got through the first encounters to set them up for the final show-down to ge them to 2nd level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tenniel, post: 4821388, member: 61866"] [I]It's also strange that there is no way to dispel a ritual. So once a ritual is made permanent, unless it offers a way to counter it, there is no way to dispel it, ever.[/I] That's where the DM (the lord and master of game and never a slave to the mechanics) comes in. The evil cultists have set up permanent ritutals at heir secret hideout, the DM designs a skill challenge for the PCs to overcome the devices and infiltrate their base of operations. Fun. Perception checks to see a slight flaw to exploit in the magic circle. Acrobatics to Laura Croft your way through the area of effect. History to get background on the use of these devices and how they were overcome in the past. Arcana to recall the secret word to disable it. I used a similar set up for a break the "magic circle (no doubt a permanent ritual) to retrieve the warded item (magic sword)" skill challenge after the players got through the first encounters to set them up for the final show-down to ge them to 2nd level. [/QUOTE]

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