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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8125748" data-attributes="member: 7015558">I'm not really sure if you're disagreeing with me? I did say in my post that you should treat 5E material as the most relevant, as the current edition lore overrides that of previous editions (or at least it should if you care about &quot;canon&quot;). Although it seems consistent that more worshippers = more power, this doesn't seem universally true either. The biggest example being that Overgods like Ao are more powerful than any other divine rank, but have few if any worshippers. This metric also doesn't seem to apply to every setting either, as in Eberron there are many faiths but true gods don't (seem to) exist.Saying that 4E primordials power isn't consistent with 5E's stats isn't that relevant here; the 5E stats represent primordial's power level, at least how powerful they are in the age of mortals. The only gods that are statted up are Tiamat and Auril, which are both Lesser Deities. Tiamat is CR 30, the most powerful official creature in the game other than perhaps the Tarrasque. Auril's forms combined are about comparable to a CR 17 creature. The most powerful primordial statted is Magaera at CR 23, the weakest primordial being CR 18. So they both cover pretty broad ranges, though it certainly seems like the most &quot;active&quot; and free primordials tend to be weaker, while the most powerful were imprisoned or slain.For example, Erek-Hus was the primordial who slew Io, but inadvertently created Bahamut and Tiamat who in turn slew him. Erek-Hus was probably stronger than even a lesser deity if it took Tiamat (CR 30) and Bahamut (likely near 30) to take down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 8125748, member: 7015558"] I'm not really sure if you're disagreeing with me? I did say in my post that you should treat 5E material as the most relevant, as the current edition lore overrides that of previous editions (or at least it should if you care about "canon"). Although it seems consistent that more worshippers = more power, this doesn't seem universally true either. The biggest example being that Overgods like Ao are more powerful than any other divine rank, but have few if any worshippers. This metric also doesn't seem to apply to every setting either, as in Eberron there are many faiths but true gods don't (seem to) exist. Saying that 4E primordials power isn't consistent with 5E's stats isn't that relevant here; the 5E stats represent primordial's power level, at least how powerful they are in the age of mortals. The only gods that are statted up are Tiamat and Auril, which are both Lesser Deities. Tiamat is CR 30, the most powerful official creature in the game other than perhaps the Tarrasque. Auril's forms combined are about comparable to a CR 17 creature. The most powerful primordial statted is Magaera at CR 23, the weakest primordial being CR 18. So they both cover pretty broad ranges, though it certainly seems like the most "active" and free primordials tend to be weaker, while the most powerful were imprisoned or slain. For example, Erek-Hus was the primordial who slew Io, but inadvertently created Bahamut and Tiamat who in turn slew him. Erek-Hus was probably stronger than even a lesser deity if it took Tiamat (CR 30) and Bahamut (likely near 30) to take down. [/QUOTE]

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