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<blockquote data-quote="AtomicPope" data-source="post: 4202344" data-attributes="member: 64790"><p>It seems to me that you're basing all of you information (not off of the PDF's and Previews) but off of 3rd Edition. Why?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Question: Why do you need Sneak Attack? </p><p>Answer: It does damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You know it doesn't work so why even try to pretend it <em>should</em>? Why? Well, that's because your 1/2 Orc started as a Rogue in 3e because he needed extra damage and Skill Points. That's not necessary anymore. It's obsolete. There are better, more effective, and easier ways to make your character. </p><p></p><p></p><p>1) Adventuring Skills: Ranger. Gets a load of trained skills. As many as a Rogue in 4e.</p><p>2) Movement: Ranger. Gets to shift about the battlefield at 1st level.</p><p>3) Greatsword: Feat.</p><p>4) Extra Damage (that's compatible with Greatsword): Ranger. Hunter's Quarry.</p><p>5) Fighter Powers are Weapon Specific (Ref. Races and Classes): Fighters have fighting styles based on Two-Handed Weapons (chi-ching!) and Weapon Shield.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So how important is your character concept really? I'm being serious. In 2e you said he was an elf. Now you're saying he's human. Why not just make him an orc? On the WotC Podcasts one of the Official playtesters has a Gnome Warlock in his 4e game. He was interviewed and said he wanted to play a gnome. So just play a 1/2 orc. But if you really want to be Orky then why not use an axe? Better yet, a double axe. You could have a Ranger that uses two Battle Axes (orc dbl axe), moves about the battlefield, etc, etc.</p><p></p><p>You should ask yourself if moving around with skills is more important than using a greatsword. If the GS is more important then go fighter. If it's moving around with skills, then go Ranger. Either way, you know that Rogue won't work so don't do it. You don't need to anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AtomicPope, post: 4202344, member: 64790"] It seems to me that you're basing all of you information (not off of the PDF's and Previews) but off of 3rd Edition. Why? Question: Why do you need Sneak Attack? Answer: It does damage. You know it doesn't work so why even try to pretend it [I]should[/I]? Why? Well, that's because your 1/2 Orc started as a Rogue in 3e because he needed extra damage and Skill Points. That's not necessary anymore. It's obsolete. There are better, more effective, and easier ways to make your character. 1) Adventuring Skills: Ranger. Gets a load of trained skills. As many as a Rogue in 4e. 2) Movement: Ranger. Gets to shift about the battlefield at 1st level. 3) Greatsword: Feat. 4) Extra Damage (that's compatible with Greatsword): Ranger. Hunter's Quarry. 5) Fighter Powers are Weapon Specific (Ref. Races and Classes): Fighters have fighting styles based on Two-Handed Weapons (chi-ching!) and Weapon Shield. So how important is your character concept really? I'm being serious. In 2e you said he was an elf. Now you're saying he's human. Why not just make him an orc? On the WotC Podcasts one of the Official playtesters has a Gnome Warlock in his 4e game. He was interviewed and said he wanted to play a gnome. So just play a 1/2 orc. But if you really want to be Orky then why not use an axe? Better yet, a double axe. You could have a Ranger that uses two Battle Axes (orc dbl axe), moves about the battlefield, etc, etc. You should ask yourself if moving around with skills is more important than using a greatsword. If the GS is more important then go fighter. If it's moving around with skills, then go Ranger. Either way, you know that Rogue won't work so don't do it. You don't need to anymore. [/QUOTE]
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