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<blockquote data-quote="jeffhartsell" data-source="post: 4203312" data-attributes="member: 7748"><p>I agree with the OP that it is disappointing the rogue powers we have seen require a light weapon. "Sneak attack" is simply knowing where to attack to do more damage. If the rogue can pick up additional weapon profs with feats and has powers that work with other weapons, then there is no issue.</p><p></p><p>And trying to be a fighter with rogue abilities is not at all the same as being a rogue that can use heavy weapons. And it is not like the OP is saying he wants to take over the fighters role and tank; he just wants to be a striker that uses weapons other than light weapons.</p><p></p><p>From the material so far, I am wondering how someone will be able to make a TWF fighter. Someone that wants to tank but does not want a shield or 2h; i.e. rapier and main gauche swashbuckler that is out in front being the dodgy tank as opposed to the heavy armor tank. </p><p></p><p>Looks like that will need to be a different class than the current fighter. We have to wait for PH2 for the bard, druid, monk, and barbarian.</p><p></p><p>Maybe the OP will get a new class in one of the PHx books that has sneak attack with heavy weapons; like the Ronin PRC got in 3e.</p><p></p><p>IMO the fighter/rogue was a good way to model a character that was a swordsman that knew where to hit someone for maximum effect. Take melee weapon mastery and some other ftr/rog feat goodness and you were set. That character is really not a classic thief but instead a mobile master swordsman.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Oh, and btw I am a huge DnD fan and am very much looking forward to 4e. I just have to realize that some characters won't translate right now (or maybe ever).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffhartsell, post: 4203312, member: 7748"] I agree with the OP that it is disappointing the rogue powers we have seen require a light weapon. "Sneak attack" is simply knowing where to attack to do more damage. If the rogue can pick up additional weapon profs with feats and has powers that work with other weapons, then there is no issue. And trying to be a fighter with rogue abilities is not at all the same as being a rogue that can use heavy weapons. And it is not like the OP is saying he wants to take over the fighters role and tank; he just wants to be a striker that uses weapons other than light weapons. From the material so far, I am wondering how someone will be able to make a TWF fighter. Someone that wants to tank but does not want a shield or 2h; i.e. rapier and main gauche swashbuckler that is out in front being the dodgy tank as opposed to the heavy armor tank. Looks like that will need to be a different class than the current fighter. We have to wait for PH2 for the bard, druid, monk, and barbarian. Maybe the OP will get a new class in one of the PHx books that has sneak attack with heavy weapons; like the Ronin PRC got in 3e. IMO the fighter/rogue was a good way to model a character that was a swordsman that knew where to hit someone for maximum effect. Take melee weapon mastery and some other ftr/rog feat goodness and you were set. That character is really not a classic thief but instead a mobile master swordsman. Edit: Oh, and btw I am a huge DnD fan and am very much looking forward to 4e. I just have to realize that some characters won't translate right now (or maybe ever). [/QUOTE]
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