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<blockquote data-quote="KRT" data-source="post: 2677537" data-attributes="member: 37355"><p>I've done this before and it works as long as you can transfer the character into something at some point and the skill points and feats all work out as if they started at first level in their prefered class. To do this they take commoner as their starting class with the commensurate suck points (i mean skill points). As they adventure they pick up preferences by doing class related stuff. The guys trying to figure things out, read, etc. will get spell preference, and then of course their is combat preference. When they finally achieve a level they will still take commoner unless they have someone willing to train them. They need to have an NPC available and willing. The NPC is only willing if they have enough preference points. The rationale here being that these guys are too old for apprentice style training so they have to have some experience so to speak before the NPC will be willing to risk wasting his time. Once they get a real class they get the skill points that are attributted to that class at first level minus the amount they used for first level commoner. Each level they gain hereafter they add to their new class plus they can exchange one NPC class for a PC class. If they wish to choose a new PC class they still need a trainer in order to exchange the additional NPC class.</p><p></p><p>For example Bert the Millers boy starts out as a commoner and proceeds to 3rd level before he has enough preference points to satisfy the local Priest to train him as a cleric. He also has some warrior preference points (not enough though) and didn't want to wait another level. So he is now a 1st level fighter 2nd level commoner (as he found the trainer part way through 3rd). At 4th level, he has enough fighter preference points and take a fighter level plus he can trade in a commoner level for either a cleric or fighter level as he has an available trainer for both. He chooses cleric and is now a 2nd cleric/1st fighter/1st commoner. At his next level he will be able to trade his last commoner level for something more useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KRT, post: 2677537, member: 37355"] I've done this before and it works as long as you can transfer the character into something at some point and the skill points and feats all work out as if they started at first level in their prefered class. To do this they take commoner as their starting class with the commensurate suck points (i mean skill points). As they adventure they pick up preferences by doing class related stuff. The guys trying to figure things out, read, etc. will get spell preference, and then of course their is combat preference. When they finally achieve a level they will still take commoner unless they have someone willing to train them. They need to have an NPC available and willing. The NPC is only willing if they have enough preference points. The rationale here being that these guys are too old for apprentice style training so they have to have some experience so to speak before the NPC will be willing to risk wasting his time. Once they get a real class they get the skill points that are attributted to that class at first level minus the amount they used for first level commoner. Each level they gain hereafter they add to their new class plus they can exchange one NPC class for a PC class. If they wish to choose a new PC class they still need a trainer in order to exchange the additional NPC class. For example Bert the Millers boy starts out as a commoner and proceeds to 3rd level before he has enough preference points to satisfy the local Priest to train him as a cleric. He also has some warrior preference points (not enough though) and didn't want to wait another level. So he is now a 1st level fighter 2nd level commoner (as he found the trainer part way through 3rd). At 4th level, he has enough fighter preference points and take a fighter level plus he can trade in a commoner level for either a cleric or fighter level as he has an available trainer for both. He chooses cleric and is now a 2nd cleric/1st fighter/1st commoner. At his next level he will be able to trade his last commoner level for something more useful. [/QUOTE]
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