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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jacob Marley" data-source="post: 6131399" data-attributes="member: 89537">Saph's conclusions are generally spot on. I'll add the following opinions from my experiences with Pathfinder....Bards<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The general changes in Pathfinder to skills coupled with the bard's versatile performances really allow the bard greater versatility than its 3.x counterpart.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Half-orcs went from being the worst bard race in 3.x to being, arguably, the best bard race in Pathfinder. This is largely due to the half-orc's versatility in applying its ability bonus, and its familiarity with the falchion.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mithril breastplate no longer counts as light armor. This is a nerf, though not a crippling one.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bardic music now counts in rounds per day. This is a nerf, and is a crippling one at that. My gaming group tends toward running longer encounters. It is common for an average encounter in our campaigns to last 7-8 rounds, with 10+ round encounters not being unheard of. In Pathfinder I am rationing my performances at a far greater frequency than in 3.x.</li> </ul>Paladins<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Every changed made to the paladin is an improvement on its 3.x counterpart.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The only negative I have concerns the changes made to Power Attack. There is no granularity to Pathfinder Power Attack.</li> </ul>Wizards<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Specialize. There is no downside.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Some spells have been changed but, by and large, if you enjoy playing battlefield control wizards (and I do!), you should be fine. On the other hand, if you enjoy utility wizards you might find the changes a little more frustrating.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Half-orcs make good wizards.</li> </ul>I haven't had the opportunity to play any of the other base 3.x classes in Pathfinder. I have played an Inquisitor and enjoyed the experience. If you liked 3.x you should be satisfied with Pathfinder. If you liked optimizing 3.x -- and I think you do -- you should find that Pathfinder presents a new set of challenges. I do miss a lot of 3.x when playing Pathfinder; namely, the prestige classes and some of the protected IP. All in all, I think Pathfinder is a step sideways from 3.x. It offers some new challenges but at a cost. I am happy with playing either game.</blockquote>

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