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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 5884900" data-attributes="member: 17077">I've never been a big fan of "Vancian" fire-and-forget spellcasting. But they've pretty much put their foot down and inisisted that Vancain casting will be a part of 5e's core rules, and I can't say I'm surprised. Even though alot of people dislike it, it's been one of the game's major traditions going back to the very beginning of the game. I accept that. But if they are going to keep Vancian style casting, there's two simple things they can do to make it much more balanced and address some of the major reasons people like myself dislike it.One of the biggest problems with vancian casting in the past is what people call the "Linear Fighter, Quadratic Wizard." Wizards at very low levels in all editions prior to 4th were, well, pathetic. Wow! Look at me! I'm a 1st level Wizard and I have ONE spell PER DAY! .... Then, on the flipside, a 20th level wizard has so many spells per day it's almost impossible for him to run out. I don't care for either extreme.If they're going to insist on keeping Vancian casting out of tradition, I hope that they at least try to make casters more "linear." Give a 1st level wizard more than one or two freaking spells per day. Give them several, in fact. There's nothing enjoyable about playing a class that has such a limited resource. But they also should greatly reduce the number of spells higher level wizards get, so that they don't become gods. This will make wizards more balanced and fun throughout all levels of play.The other thing I really want to see is the return of at-will basic attacks and cantrips. They've already acknowledged how popular at-will spells are, but I figured I'd mention it anyway. I find Vancian fire-and-forget spellcasting is alot more bearable if I have at least a couple at-will basic attack spells and some at-will cantrips to fall back on when I don't want to waste a good prepared spell. I've had alot of fun with at-will cantrips in both 4e and Pathfinder. They don't unbalance anything at all; they're just fun little tricks that let me feel like I'm a wizard all day long.</blockquote>

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