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<blockquote data-quote="GM Dave" data-source="post: 5885171" data-attributes="member: 6687992">You forgot a couple of other problems;4.&nbsp; The self-buff spells and items (I include the polymorphs in this category as they are really self buffs that affect many things at the same time).&nbsp; I don't think people are in a hurry for mages or druids to be turning into giant apes or bears again while casting spells.&nbsp; For that matter the 'invisible' flea casting spells is also annoying.5.&nbsp; Feats that break all the 'decent' game rules.&nbsp; I got shown a feat from Complete Arcana that allowed a level 1 Wizard to cast a level 2 spell if they could succeed at a DC 8 Caster Level check.&nbsp; They could not take the feat if they didn't have at least an Int or Cha of 15.&nbsp; This means a starting Wizard can cast this spell if he rolls a 5 or better (so so but most Wizard players in this type of game have Int 18 or 20 which means they need a 3 or a 2 to cast).&nbsp; They wanted the feat to be able to claim a reserve feat to allow them to be doing AoE of 2d6 per round.I had to say it was a nice idea but I would not allow it because they were going to be putting archers to shame at level 1.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GM Dave, post: 5885171, member: 6687992"] You forgot a couple of other problems; 4. The self-buff spells and items (I include the polymorphs in this category as they are really self buffs that affect many things at the same time). I don't think people are in a hurry for mages or druids to be turning into giant apes or bears again while casting spells. For that matter the 'invisible' flea casting spells is also annoying. 5. Feats that break all the 'decent' game rules. I got shown a feat from Complete Arcana that allowed a level 1 Wizard to cast a level 2 spell if they could succeed at a DC 8 Caster Level check. They could not take the feat if they didn't have at least an Int or Cha of 15. This means a starting Wizard can cast this spell if he rolls a 5 or better (so so but most Wizard players in this type of game have Int 18 or 20 which means they need a 3 or a 2 to cast). They wanted the feat to be able to claim a reserve feat to allow them to be doing AoE of 2d6 per round. I had to say it was a nice idea but I would not allow it because they were going to be putting archers to shame at level 1. [/QUOTE]

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