Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mattachine" data-source="post: 5887261" data-attributes="member: 6678226">On the other hand, not everyone who wants to play a wizard (a lot of rpg players) wants that sort of complex risk-reward character and gameplay.I hope that D&DN doesn't limit wizards to such a small subset of players. Yes, a lot of those type of players are here on EN World. But we're not typical. At the rpg club at my school, new players were immediately turned off to wizards and sorcerers in 3e, but liked warlocks. In 4e, new players had no aversion to wizards. The big reason?New Player: "Alright, I use my spells to attack."DM: "You are out of magic after that first fight."New Player: "Out of magic? I'm a wizard."DM: "Remember when I explained the whole memorization thing?"New Player: "I forgot how to cast spells."and so on.Again, I can appreciate liking the AD&D style wizard. I liked playing one myself back in the day. Players like that are rare these days, and dissatisfied players are more likely to speak up now, since they have experienced so many other systems (such as from video games). Expectations for what a fantasy wizard should be able to do aren't really coming from Lord of the Rings or Elric anymore. For a long time, the major wizar/adventurer tropes come from games. Yes, 4e missed the mark with veteran players, but definitely snagged new ones. A new edition must keep something of the sensibilities and tropes from fantasy video games, including "not running out of magic".</blockquote>

Verification