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Making Vancian Casting More "Linear" and Less "Quadratic"
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<blockquote data-quote="Zustiur" data-source="post: 5889277" data-attributes="member: 1544"><p>Got it. You weren't using the definition of cheap that I thought you were using. It makes much more sense now.</p><p>However, I believe when WheresMyD20 said "Being able to throw a weak magic attack every single round cheapens magic." he wasn't using your definition of cheap either. His statement was around the idea that magic is expensive because it is limited (per day); whereas being able to throw magic missiles every round is free. Free is cheaper than limited. </p><p>Also, there's a possibility that he meant it in the 'less cool' sense - like when we say "Kicking someone in the groin is a cheap trick".</p><p> </p><p>Undoubtedly.</p><p>The result being that I'm not trying to use novels to explain how the game should work in my eyes.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Interesting. So, putting balance aside; how is "being able to cast magic missile at will rather than falling back on a crossbow" not cheap?</p><p>You appear to be championing a reduction of the availability of magic on one hand, while simultaneously championing the increase in the availability of magic on the other hand. Unless you feel that magic <em>should</em> be cheap in DND?</p><p></p><p>Regardless, making magic missile or similar spells into a reusable spell doesn't do anything to make the casters less quadratic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zustiur, post: 5889277, member: 1544"] Got it. You weren't using the definition of cheap that I thought you were using. It makes much more sense now. However, I believe when WheresMyD20 said "Being able to throw a weak magic attack every single round cheapens magic." he wasn't using your definition of cheap either. His statement was around the idea that magic is expensive because it is limited (per day); whereas being able to throw magic missiles every round is free. Free is cheaper than limited. Also, there's a possibility that he meant it in the 'less cool' sense - like when we say "Kicking someone in the groin is a cheap trick". Undoubtedly. The result being that I'm not trying to use novels to explain how the game should work in my eyes. Interesting. So, putting balance aside; how is "being able to cast magic missile at will rather than falling back on a crossbow" not cheap? You appear to be championing a reduction of the availability of magic on one hand, while simultaneously championing the increase in the availability of magic on the other hand. Unless you feel that magic [I]should[/I] be cheap in DND? Regardless, making magic missile or similar spells into a reusable spell doesn't do anything to make the casters less quadratic. [/QUOTE]
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