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<blockquote data-quote="Corsair" data-source="post: 2527820" data-attributes="member: 23477">Tinner had a nice long post, and as someone who plays numerous characters of both genders, I want to address a couple things.&nbsp; I'm going to snip down his post and number some things for simplicity.1) I assume you have no problem with people playing dwarves and elves, even though it is unlikely a human can play anything other than a &quot;short gruff human&quot; or a &quot;pointy eared human&quot;.&nbsp; Secondly, we're talking about adventurers, people who are already segregated from society.&nbsp; 20 strength half orc barbarian women wouldn't act like a &quot;normal&quot; woman most likely.&nbsp; Whether the 24 Wis cleric is male or female, or played by a male or female is secondary to the fact that you're asking a normal 10 to 12 Wis human player to play a 24 wis character!&nbsp; Gender should be a cinch next to that!2)&nbsp; A player whose characters have disruptive traits will usually be disruptive regardless of the character's gender I've found.&nbsp; The disruptions are just different and new, so they are more noticable.3)&nbsp; Would you have a problem if a male player played a jaded veteran soldier, pious cleric, or slimy bard?&nbsp; No?&nbsp; Then why is it bad if someone plays equally stereotypical female characters?&nbsp; Most people tend to overlook the fact that most same-gendered characters are stereotypes as well.&nbsp; This is hardly a reasonable argument.4)&nbsp; Like # 2 and # 3, this has more to do with the players than the characters.&nbsp; In our group we have had one player who refused to &quot;fade to black&quot; early enough for my liking, and this was with male characters.&nbsp; We've had another character (admitedly in an evil campaign) who decided he was into sexual sadism.&nbsp; Does the gender of the character being male or female make a difference?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corsair, post: 2527820, member: 23477"] Tinner had a nice long post, and as someone who plays numerous characters of both genders, I want to address a couple things. I'm going to snip down his post and number some things for simplicity. 1) I assume you have no problem with people playing dwarves and elves, even though it is unlikely a human can play anything other than a "short gruff human" or a "pointy eared human". Secondly, we're talking about adventurers, people who are already segregated from society. 20 strength half orc barbarian women wouldn't act like a "normal" woman most likely. Whether the 24 Wis cleric is male or female, or played by a male or female is secondary to the fact that you're asking a normal 10 to 12 Wis human player to play a 24 wis character! Gender should be a cinch next to that! 2) A player whose characters have disruptive traits will usually be disruptive regardless of the character's gender I've found. The disruptions are just different and new, so they are more noticable. 3) Would you have a problem if a male player played a jaded veteran soldier, pious cleric, or slimy bard? No? Then why is it bad if someone plays equally stereotypical female characters? Most people tend to overlook the fact that most same-gendered characters are stereotypes as well. This is hardly a reasonable argument. 4) Like # 2 and # 3, this has more to do with the players than the characters. In our group we have had one player who refused to "fade to black" early enough for my liking, and this was with male characters. We've had another character (admitedly in an evil campaign) who decided he was into sexual sadism. Does the gender of the character being male or female make a difference? [/QUOTE]

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