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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 748631" data-attributes="member: 8439">This is a sort of odd idea. There is far more fantasy written from a male point of view than womens. Discounting bodice rippers, I'd say that is true of fiction overall. When women read, they are expected to identify with male outlooks and feelings. While I agree that women have an easier time playing men than vice versa, I'd say its for exactly the opposite reasons - Women are more likely to have been exposed to complex male thought the other way around. Just as its easier for a gay man to convincingly play the straight role that a majority of the culture has been molding him into than for a straight man to come off with a convincing gay role, Its easier for women to play men because we've been reading male first person or main character stories all our lives, and taught to undrestand and see things from men's points of veiws* while men have simply been less immersed.*(A lot of men will deal with frustration by acting angry or unfocusedly violent. Its just how they deal with frustration. Most women, AFAIK, learn very early on that even though this man is acting a way that they would have to be in a killing rage to act, its just frustration. On the other hand, the majority of adult men I know honestly think that when a woman reacts to frustration by crying its because she's really "THAT upset" by whats happening.) actually, its wrong. Or poorly enough phrased to be meaningless. The next time I reach up to get something off the top shelf for one of my store's male customers, I'll remember that I can't possibly be taller than him. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />  Its very simple - if the variation within two groups on a trait is significantly larger than the variation between the two groups, the difference isn't worth noting except in trivia and situations where the majority of the populations has already been eliminated, leaving the extremes. This is true of height, somewhat of strength and definitly of roleplaying ability. (I think women are though to be better roleplayers just because its usually the really good roleplaying women who see any point in the game.) I find it hard to believe that you have played with enough women or men to make that judgement meaningful. Stick to the "I've been burned and have these phobias" argument, it's perfectly valid. Don't try to make it universal or externally rational.I see no universal problem with men playing women, but have seen some particular players who I would discourage from it. The worst kind of "guys playing girls" (IMHO) are the ones with a heavy Virgin/Whore dicotomy going on. Every woman is either a good girl virginal palidan type or all out moral-less slut. When they're part time DMs who play all the NPCs women the same way, its a good time to leave the group...Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

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