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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnBrown" data-source="post: 753951" data-attributes="member: 2243">Guilt Puppy,I am sorry if you found that section of the post insulting.  It wasn’t my intent to be insulting. I apologize.  It doesn’t change my point of view though.  I’m simply asking person X to play his or her own gender.  This a rule that is applied evenly across all players.  My female players play females.  My male players play males.  I have stated my reasons why this rule exists.  I have stated why they are not exceptions.  There has been post by people that implied that unless they could play a cross gender character they would simply take their bat and go home, sight unseen.  Sorry, but that still sounds like a slightly immature reason to me.  And while I can be childish with the best of them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, I don’t think asking a player to respect my wishes and wishes of his or her fellow players is being so.  There is a big difference between saying:  “If we are going to play, then there are some rules that everyone has to follow,” and “If I can’t have my way, I am just not going to play.”  If I was misinterpreting those people I apologize to them as well, and the whole point is moot.AI,To answer your first question, in my game I ask males to play males and females to play females.  As far as the homosexual/heterosexual question goes, the act of sex (heterosexual or homosexual) has no real place in the game that I run.  If a conversation goes much beyond “Well, we destroyed that evil cult, now back to town for wine, women (or men) and song…” then you will first probably get good natured ribbing and people chiming in with you.  If it continues you’ll probably get gentle stares (if the joke has gone on a bit too long), then cold stares, and then finally a request by me or the other players to drop this particular line of behavior/conversation.  There is nothing wrong with “adult theme” games; it is simply not something I am interested in participating in.  As I said before, there are other outlets for that sort of thing that are much better at catering to it than your average D&D game.  Sex, sexual orientation, and other things such skin color, don’t carry any stigmas in my game so, those things are mostly irrelevant.  I run a version of Greyhawk, and in it the main “motivations” are the struggle of law vs. chaos, good vs. evil, and the struggle to keep the balance between them.  Princes are just as likely to be kidnapped as princesses and that evil wizard might just as likely to be female as male.  The Scarlet Brotherhood still thinks that everyone is beneath the Suel race, skin color just isn’t something that happens to differentiate the Suel from the other races, etc.  As for your third point/question, I am not trying to convince you or anyone else that it is a universally good rule.  Logick asked for an opinion, and I gave him the reasons while I don’t allow it in my game.  If you want to play cross-gender characters in other games that’s fine with me.  There is nothing wrong that.  I would just ask you not to do it mine.  There just seemed to be a large amount of responses that were implying that anyone who didn’t allow cross-gender characters were “wrong” somehow, and that we were stifling creativity.  My point was that no creativity was being stifled in my game, a restriction perhaps, but from a D&D perspective no worse than saying you can’t play celestial or a dragon or a demon.  You allow players to play those, fine go ahead; please just don’t ask to play them in mine.  Your character can be a brutal/nurturing, positive/negative, etc. as you want your character to be in my game, and you don’t need to have a gender designation to be like that.   Also, I do believe I am gaining something.  I have always been lucky in the sense that my players have always been very diverse:  different sexes, sexual orientations, races, creeds, and ages.  Cross-gender portrayals just seem to be a sticking point for some reason.  This doesn’t apparently happen for you and I am happy for you.   It does seem to happen from time to time in my experience so, I believe I am gaining piece of mind.  I believe I have eliminated a potential point of conflict between my old friends (my current players) and between myself, my old friends, and potential new friends (new players).  Again, I am not trying to convince you of anything, just explaining my point of view.</blockquote>

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