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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6304935" data-attributes="member: 177">I think it goes the other way. It does not contain humor in and of itself.&nbsp; It is the context that puts humor into it - and it takes wit and effort to generate that context.And that's where Zombie_Babies' point fails.&nbsp; If you don't use wit, and you don't even try to take the effort to generate the proper context, you aren't telling a joke.&nbsp; Z_B misses something important - you cannot insult another person or people, and have it be a joke, if you are in the superior position.&nbsp; The person in power cannot look down at others, and publicly note their flaws, and stand safe on a pedestal, immune to repercussions.&nbsp; Louis CK understands this, and spends a lot of time in his routines making fun of himself, and his own demographics.&nbsp; He tries to make sure he isn't on a pedestal.&nbsp; Goyer, did not do that.&nbsp; He took no effort to remove himself from the high-horse.&nbsp; He so clearly did not take the effort, that I don't think he was even *trying* to make a joke, but was instead making an ad hominem argument for why we should not listen to his detractors.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6304935, member: 177"] I think it goes the other way. It does not contain humor in and of itself. It is the context that puts humor into it - and it takes wit and effort to generate that context. And that's where Zombie_Babies' point fails. If you don't use wit, and you don't even try to take the effort to generate the proper context, you aren't telling a joke. Z_B misses something important - you cannot insult another person or people, and have it be a joke, if you are in the superior position. The person in power cannot look down at others, and publicly note their flaws, and stand safe on a pedestal, immune to repercussions. Louis CK understands this, and spends a lot of time in his routines making fun of himself, and his own demographics. He tries to make sure he isn't on a pedestal. Goyer, did not do that. He took no effort to remove himself from the high-horse. He so clearly did not take the effort, that I don't think he was even *trying* to make a joke, but was instead making an [I]ad hominem[/I] argument for why we should not listen to his detractors. [/QUOTE]

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